Grattan / Gingermann?

[J Farrell / Speed Tech Motorsp]

Why are we not racing there? WTF? I want a straight answer as to why we don't ride there. There are a few tracks I would rather not be at compared to those 2 tracks.

[Burt Munro]

Business decision.  Low attendance made them lose money.
FYI .....  I miss going to Gingerman too.

[Xian_13]

Kevin Elliot told me (in 2006 I believe)...
"Any time they try to run an event that requires driving through Chicago, they lose money"

I really miss Gingerman and ACC north.
But... what can you do?


XIII

[Andi]

I'd rather make the drive than go to Gateway again.

[J Farrell / Speed Tech Motorsp]

I'm never going to Gateway again. Not worth the money at all. Weren't enougth riders to pay contingency. Worst attendance I have ever seen at any motorcycle event in my life. Dangerous track.
I just saw that they have repaved Grattan on the whole front staight through turn 3. The rest should be done in 2 years.
Can't wait. Love that track.
I'll race Wera if I have to ride there. That track kicks ass!

[Andi]

This year was the first year I had been there. Always heard that it was a fun layout but dangerous. I'll agree that it's a decent layout but it's far too dangerous. I couldn't get comfortable there at all. You can obviously go fast there as Matt, Brian, and yourself proved but the risk over reward is far too great.

[Greeny]

I'm sure there's a lot more that goes into deciding what tracks we race than I can imagine, but it would be nice to see a lot more of the midwest tracks on the schedule.  Putnam, Gingerman, Autobahn, Grattan, MAM, ...  all great tracks imo. 

[Andi]

I'm sure there's a lot more that goes into deciding what tracks we race than I can imagine, but it would be nice to see a lot more of the midwest tracks on the schedule.  Putnam, Gingerman, Autobahn, Grattan, MAM, ...  all great tracks imo. 

Hallett too!!!

[dylanfan53]

This gets talked about every year and never goes anywhere since the last couple times CCS went to Gman the attendance was low.  Driving through Chicago and around the lake on a Sunday evening with vacation home traffic is more than most can handle apparently.  It's a shame though.  I like Gman and Grattan better than most in the midwest. 

[HAWK]

I like both tracks too but if Kevin loses money then we won't be racing at any tracks. You need to get people to commit to being there in numbers that will make money and then then need to actually show up.

Put together a proposal for Kevin and then follow up with attendance.

Oh and Don, what would you know about driving around the lake? 

[123user]

I miss Gingerman also.  It seems that the mentality of many living west of the lake is..."I have to drive more than 2 hours to race? I won't be able to sleep in my own bed?  I'm gonna have to spend a night away from momma? Nevermind!" 

The worst part about the drive is realizing that it took less time for NASA to put a man on the moon then for Chicago to complete 20 measly miles of highway...

I drive through Indy from STL to get to Gingerman... its a lot more miles but actually takes about 1/2hr less than going around the lake. 

[red900]

The old days of racing are over, everybody wants something for nothing.  No devotion.  I want to race bout only if it does not inconvienance me. 

I was at the Wera national Gratten event this year and there were a decent amount of attendees, Why will people travel there for Wera but not for CCS? 

Gateway is not a track i will ride at again either, it would really be nice to get back to a regional series instead of a track championship.