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Started by f3racer, June 25, 2009, 09:12:39 AM

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Super Dave

I think the first thing is to actually race.  It was something that John Ulrich replied to years ago where someone wrote in saying how fast they thought they would be if they had X, Y, Z, such-and-such, and thus & so.  And John put it pretty well with a simple statement:  racers race.

Racers give blood and other fluids, work three jobs, write for sponsorships...

Get lots of credit cards and go bankrupt...multiple times...

Lie, cheat, and steal...

One might be surprised to find out that there were a lot of fast guys in AMA Supersport in previous years that were paying $50k-$120k for those rides.  None of which would return that money if they won all the races, and they had no real chance to do so either.

Yeah, certainly, aim high, but recognize the real limitations to offering a sponsorship opportunity to a five to ten race program that has 1000 to 3000 spectators made up of the racers you're competing against and their families and friends.  I think we have a thread going on that one right now.
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Burt Munro

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Quote from: backMARKr on June 25, 2009, 07:12:17 PM
THIS IS A RUSE!!!...WEAVER IS NOT THIS NICE!!!

DO NOT TRUST HIM,  HE IS A PROFESSIONAL SHIT DISTURBER!!!


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Ducmarc

call sprocket specialist they have special kit to add chain drive to your wallet and a secret opener for the bosses purse . i'm so full of sh$t tonight must be the darvocets.go lightweight and good luck

R1Racer99

Your tire numbers are way off for a new racer. I'm running top three in amateur middleweight and I'm using a set of tires per weekend, if not a little more. I won a race at Blackhawk on tires that had 60 laps on them and my times weren't more than a second off what I run on brand new tires.

I would say use whatever take-offs you can find cheap for your Friday practice and new racer school and then get a new set for your races that weekend. Then when those are used up, use them for your next practice.

If you end up running mid-west I'll see you there, good luck.

f3racer

i dont think i can go lightweight. i am going to use my street bike (07 cbr 600 rr). i am pulling her completely off the street. i spent last night fabricating a fiberglass catch pan and headlight blanks. i downloaded the 09 rule book and read it twice.  thanks for all the graet advice

Quote from: R1Racer99 on June 26, 2009, 02:14:09 AM

new racer  school

If you end up running mid-west I'll see you there, good luck.

thanks for the tire advice it will be used. my 1st race is probably going to be on my street qualifiers. 

new racer school?  do i have to have that? i already have the team hammer school. if i have to have that i didnt see it anywhere. where do i do that at?

looks like i will start at either great plains or mid-west.  great plains has less races there fore easier to afford.
Will
Former CCS MW Novice #81, WERA Novice #81
AHRMA Heavyweight SBK #81, DD's Racing Endurance Team #773
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f3racer

Will
Former CCS MW Novice #81, WERA Novice #81
AHRMA Heavyweight SBK #81, DD's Racing Endurance Team #773
2020 Tuono Factory, 2000 RC51, 1980 CB750/823

roadracer162

Quote from: f3racer on June 26, 2009, 08:46:30 AM
uhh yeah im lost

Insurance for when you crash.

The Team hammer could suffice if it were the racer school and you received a certificate. You would then take that to registration and get set with your race license. If unsure call CCS before you get to the track. I think Nancy is heading that now.

Running your CBR can be a whole lot more money lost when you crash as compared to just purchasing a set-up SV for lightweight. Once you turn your streetbike into a track bike and crash it takes so much more money and time to get it back to stock and street ready. Consider that you could get started with a $2000 SV that is all ready to go for the track. I bought a "battered" FZR400 and swapped out parts, bought new sharkskinz and put it on the track for $700.

Cheap? Right now it is for the initial outlay. You could rent a bike for your first time out.

Mark
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f3racer

Quote from: skidMARK on June 26, 2009, 08:57:12 AM

The Team hammer could suffice if it were the racer school and you received a certificate.

If unsure call CCS before you get to the track.
Once you turn your streetbike into a track bike and crash it takes so much more money and time to get it back to stock and street ready.


i already called ccs and asked about the team hammer school. it is good. i have the cert.   once the cbr is stripped it will never go back on the street. i bought this bike new feb 08 when i got back from iraq and already have 17000 miles on it. it keeps me in trouble with the cops (well..i keep myself in trouble)  all the street stuff is being sold to make up more money to race. the only factory thing that came off the bike that i will keep is the stock wheels. i will use those for practices with the practice tires. you advice is great but the fact that i cant afford to spend any money on another machine just yet. and honestly as long i get to do only one race in the season  it wil be worth it. i will be going to st louis for the race in august and going to start getting to know some people. pick up some used tires and get ready for the next race. but atleast now i know i only need 1 set of tires for the race weekend and 1 set of rains for the season.
Will
Former CCS MW Novice #81, WERA Novice #81
AHRMA Heavyweight SBK #81, DD's Racing Endurance Team #773
2020 Tuono Factory, 2000 RC51, 1980 CB750/823

Burt Munro

Quote from: f3racer on June 26, 2009, 08:37:39 AM
  i spent last night fabricating a fiberglass catch pan and headlight blanks.

You probably have already thought this all through......

Sounds like you're planning on using street bodywork for racing?  Usually that brings good money on ebay to help finance other racing needs and race bodywork is a whole lot cheaper.  Unless of course your factory stuff has some 'issues' and won't bring top dollar.

Factory bodywork doesn't crash very well either and then you end up buying race bodywork anyway.   

Just curious and trying to be helpful......  Like I said, there's probably more to the story than what you shared.   :thumb:
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f3racer

good idea. i didnt think of how much money the factory stuff would get me. iwas just thinking of how little i had to spend to get into my 1st race. thanks
Will
Former CCS MW Novice #81, WERA Novice #81
AHRMA Heavyweight SBK #81, DD's Racing Endurance Team #773
2020 Tuono Factory, 2000 RC51, 1980 CB750/823