CCS vs. Wera

[EX_#76]

Thanks Guy.  

I was all into offering my services to put my 'gift' into hyper drive for a fee, just to drive up traffic.  Then I read Jeff's statement - 'unless you start paying people'. 

I ain't your HS Prom date and givin' it away for free!!!

I gots my PRIDE!    No $5 handjobs here!

I must apologise, I thought you were a slut, turns out you are a whore!!!

[Rick Johnson 29]

I like the fact there is not near as much BS on here.Mostly all racing related posts.I like racing with CCS.Who needs an axtra 20lbs. of safety wire slowing them down.

[Super Dave]

Who needs an axtra 20lbs. of safety wire slowing them down.

I've raced with a lot of organizations.  I generally still wire my calipers even though it isn't required by CCS.  It's certainly not twenty pounds of safety wire to race with WERA unless someone's safety wiring with 1/4 inch rod...

[Mongo]

WERA doesn't make any money from the BBS.  The ad revenue goes to the people who run the server/bandwidth for us.  I don't even bother with the ads themselves in any way.

It's busier in large part because it was there first.

There is a lot of serious discussion of racing and things regarding racing, you do need to venture out of the general forum to find more of them.  Jeff is probably right about the percentage of actual racers although the majority of the regulars in General do actually race or have raced.  The dungeon seems to attract more of the never raced.   

It's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy, more traffic equates more bs and more bs equates more traffic. 

[Super Dave]

There is a lot of serious discussion of racing and things regarding racing, you do need to venture out of the general forum to find more of them.  Jeff is probably right about the percentage of actual racers although the majority of the regulars in General do actually race or have raced.  The dungeon seems to attract more of the never raced.   

It's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy, more traffic equates more bs and more bs equates more traffic. 

+1

[Mongo]

The safety wire thing is funny.  I write our rules and when I prep a bike I still wire more than is required.  Why would you take a chance at something coming off or loose that could lose you a race to save a couple of ounces of weight? 

[bel-biv]

yeah, and if you can wade thru the copius amounts of bs over there, you can find a lot of really good info as some people who are directly involved in road racing on the professional level (ju, chip, rm and several others)


and as far as the safety wire goes, the only thing i don't wire are the exh manifold nuts - and if i'm not mistaken, wera doesn't even require that anymore
i wire calipers and brake pad pins - seeing eddie lawson go into t2 at laguna years ago with no brakes planted a fear in me for losing my front brake pads that i cannot silence
 

[Russell2566]

The safety wire thing is funny.  I write our rules and when I prep a bike I still wire more than is required.  Why would you take a chance at something coming off or loose that could lose you a race to save a couple of ounces of weight? 

After almost being taken out by unknown flying parts coming from the bike in front of my 2x in my short career, I much prefer the WERA tech standards!

[Noidly1]

The time and trouble it takes to safety wire things is well worth the reward !
The consequences of Not, tell another story...

[Rick Johnson 29]

Yeah the wiring thing was just a joke.I have everything required wired also caliper bolt and  front wheel pinch bolts. Do you wire the brake pad pin clips to pin itself so they can't come out? If not what is the best way cause I need to do that?

[bel-biv]

eah, i think its safe to assume no one took you seriously on the 20lbs of safety wire
 

on my r1, the brake pad pins don't screw into the caliper
i removed the small brake pad pins altogether - ran safety wire thru the first hole in the pin and then ran it over to the other set of holes taking care to leave plenty of room so that the safety wire doesn't interfere with the brake pads at all
so in the end, there is a little arch of safety wire that goes over the brake pads

i'll post a pic when i get home

[Mongo]

We don't require the nuts/bolts at the head to be wired since we have a lot more bodwork/bellypans etc... 

There are too many types of pins to pick a best way to wire them.