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Started by skiandclimb, January 20, 2009, 01:17:01 PM

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skiandclimb

Thanks! I will start looking into a beefier triple.
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ktd

what you want is a dif rake.  I went from 36deg to 30.  on 999 the would go to 27 deg.  i dont know about 996.  Jason will know.

skiandclimb

I see, said the blind man! lol  Are you talking about the eccentric adjuster on the head tube? If so, mine set for the shorter wheelbase (30 deg???)  I htought you were talking about swapping out the upper and lower triples for say, big honkin billet ones.
#730 CCS MW/GP
Pursuit Racing, The Backstopper's Org.
www.cyclehouseperformance.com - St. Louis, MO.
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Mark Bernard

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Mark (Bernie) Bernard
Race Control CCS/ASRA - Mid-West Region

ktd

Exactly.  Except I forgot the 996 is adjustable.  1098 isn't.  Blind myself lol

Eye-p

Quote from: ktd on February 07, 2009, 10:21:07 PM
what you want is a dif rake.  I went from 36deg to 30.  on 999 the would go to 27 deg.  i dont know about 996.  Jason will know.

That is not correct.

Changing the triples on Ducati's is done to increase trail, by reducing offset.

Rake is totally separate.

With the old Desmo bikes, rake was adjustable from the factory- offset was not.

Dept of Suspension, Ducshop, and others have made reduced offset triple clamps (27mm or 30mm) to get the trail back that you lose when you adjust the chassis to the steep rake position.

I am not going to defend Ducshop here, except to say this- Mark Sutton was a Ducati Corse mechanic and is one of maybe 5 guys in the US who I would allow to work on my bikes. Everyone makes mistakes occasionally, and it sure seems like he did exactly that with you.
Doug Polen sure seems to trust Mark to build his bikes so take that for what its worth...
Jason Levitt
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Ducati23

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We are a Ducati exclusive shop and do a lot of race bike prep.

DucShop and Corse Superbikes help me with my personal race program, but we are a full service race shop with everything you might need. Feel free to stop by our place and see what we can do for you. www.ducatiomaha.com  Here is a picture of my 09 race bike.

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GP SuperTwins Champion 2007 2008
Ducati 848

ktd

#19
Actually I think its me answering too quick using the wrong terminology.  I should be saying offset not rake.    Moving from a 36mm Offset to 30mm gave me 6mm of trail.  Much improving the bike for me in a very dramatic way.

Then I even spoke up about the wrong Duc Shop.  It was Duc Pond.  My opinion came from more than just my bike.   They safety wired my friends bike and drilled holes in his Oil Cooler lines cracking the fittings.  They said it was not their fault.   Giving me even more of a bad opinion.   I apologize Duc SHOP!!!!

I'll need to think more about what I'm saying when I give a new guy advice  make sure I am using the correct terms.  Thanks for correcting me.  I'll edit my post for Duc Shop I don't want to give out wrong info.




Quote from: Eye-p on February 08, 2009, 09:36:07 AM
That is not correct.

Changing the triples on Ducati's is done to increase trail, by reducing offset.

Rake is totally separate.

With the old Desmo bikes, rake was adjustable from the factory- offset was not.

Dept of Suspension, Ducshop, and others have made reduced offset triple clamps (27mm or 30mm) to get the trail back that you lose when you adjust the chassis to the steep rake position.

I am not going to defend Ducshop here, except to say this- Mark Sutton was a Ducati Corse mechanic and is one of maybe 5 guys in the US who I would allow to work on my bikes. Everyone makes mistakes occasionally, and it sure seems like he did exactly that with you.
Doug Polen sure seems to trust Mark to build his bikes so take that for what its worth...