DUC 1098 in HEAVY WT?? WTF..

[MELK-MAN]

.. just noticed the Ducati 1098 is legal for Heavy weight? I knew it was legal in F40 and it should have dawned on me that F40 rules are like HW but man o' man..  Don't these things put out 170+ Hp with typical mods?

[jigs]

Thank God they're so expensive,HP tracks are where you really get killed,needless to say.They have their reasons,I'm not for it personally.

[Rick Johnson 29]

If I had a 750 or planned on running HW on a 600 I wouldn't like a 1098 flying by me on the straights.

[Ducati23]

This is a good rule! 

[jrichracing]

Clayton is loving this.
I'm gonna have to drop fifty pounds just so I can keep that 1098 in sight. 

[Ducati23]

They didn't exclude the 1098R did they?   

[jigs]

HA!! That's a good one.The only good news is you really have to improve everywhere else on the track to compete.

[kl3640]

They didn't exclude the 1098R did they?  

Yes, all 1198's are out.  But the problem is this: a 1098, even stock with basic race prep (let alone a SuperSport build) makes as much as a 750 with Superbike build.  So how is that fair, when a 750 guy has to keep investing money in SB engine builds, refreshes, etc?  I guess that a 1098 costs more up front, but not that much more, to offset what needs to be spent to make a 750 HP competitive with a 1098.  Also, there is the reliability issue with a stock motor vs. one with a SB build, so even if the money comes out even, the reliability doesn't.  Also, that only addresses SuperBike, not SuperSport, where there is basically no way to make up the 750's HP deficit.

At least the 1198's, which could compete effectively against 1000's, are gone from HW, so thank goodness for that; but the fact remains that twin-cylinder technology is so good now that the displacement limits differences that were previously in place to allow the V-twins to remain competitive are now outdated, and need to be re-examined.

Just my 2-cents as a 750 rider, but it doesn't seem fair, especially at the HP tracks.  If there was a huge handling cost to running a 1098, then maybe I could see that, but that's not the case at all.

[G-reg]

Also, that only addresses SuperBike, not SuperSport, where there is basically no way to make up the 750's HP deficit.

The limit is still 1000cc's for v-twins in Super Sport.

[murf99]

I don't beleive that the 1098R is legal for HWSB - since I think the actual displacement of the 1098R is 1198cc.

1098 and 1098S are, in fact, 1098cc.

Ducati were going to straighten out this naming convention, but then they saw a nice resteraunt accross the street and dedided to have lunch instead...

[MELK-MAN]

How will tech inspectors keep track of this? The bikes look incredibly similar do they not?

[kl3640]

The limit is still 1000cc's for v-twins in Super Sport.

Thanks for the info, didn't know that, but it certainly makes HW SS more reasonable.

Still though, for HW SB, a 1098 is competitive with a built 750, and that's before the 1098 motor has even been touched.

Also, as Melk-Man pointed out, the ability to tell the difference easily at tech inspection is very difficult.