Water Wetter

[Noidly1]

What about De-ionized or Reverse-Ozmosis water?

[Super Dave]

Actually, I believe Ed Key had a problem using de-ionized water. 

Water Wetter is known for making a brown sledge too.  I don't understand why it does that, but it can happen.

Ultimately, Water Wetter is only a surfactant, something that lowers the surface tension of water.  I have used Palmolive, yes, you're soaking in it, as a replacement for Water Wetter.  Doesn't seem to become as brown. 

Water, ultimately, is a problem. 

[Team Spalding]

Asking for a friend I am trying to get to do a trackday. Palmolive sounds like it would create pressures with suds. Who in the hell was the first guy to think "I'll just put some Palmolive in there"?

[dylanfan53]

Who in the hell was the first guy to think "I'll just put some Palmolive in there"?

I always wonder the same thing.  I think someone just wanted silky smooth hands.   

[Noidly1]

Never heard of it...
However, it's one way to keep your cooling system clean. 

[Burt Munro]

Why would you want to run any kind of water through an engine?

Seems like kind of a pain in the ass to me!

Right Don?  Right Dave?

[Super Dave]

I always wonder the same thing.  I think someone just wanted silky smooth hands.   

As the story goes, Water Wetter had an application of being used in pumper trucks for fire work to reduce some lubrication and corrosion issues.  But some firemen recognizing that sirfactants in diswashing detergents did the same thing tried it.  I think I first did it in 2000 or 2001.

[Super Dave]

Why would you want to run any kind of water through an engine?

Water cooling is just a fad.

[LMsports]

If you have any chemistry friends they will tell you that Water Wetter is actually considered a soap, and soaps by nature lower surface tensions, and that is how they improve cooling. That is the very basic jist...

[cbr600_mj]

Anybody ever use the stuff called pro cool?

http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Silkolene_ProCool_Coolant_Additive--609801.html

Good or bad??

[EX_#76]

Actually, I believe Ed Key had a problem using de-ionized water. 

Water Wetter is known for making a brown sledge too.  I don't understand why it does that, but it can happen.

Ultimately, Water Wetter is only a surfactant, something that lowers the surface tension of water.  I have used Palmolive, yes, you're soaking in it, as a replacement for Water Wetter.  Doesn't seem to become as brown. 

Water, ultimately, is a problem. 

No cooling problems with DI water.  What Ed's problem was is that he had a poor engine to chassis ground.  When he switched to DI water (which is not electrically conductive)  The engine quit.  We think that part of the ground path was through the cooant. 

De ionizing the water should make it basically inert.  Adding water wetter decreases the surface tension of the water.  This gives the water the ability to make better contact with the surface you want to cool.  This will only help to a certain extent.  The water wetter is essentially dish soap.  Soap has less capacity to carry thermal energy than water.  So, if you add too much water wetter the efficiency of your cooling system will be reduced.  I do not know how much water wetter it would take to impact the cooling system negatively, but I would guess allot.

[EX_#76]

Anybody ever use the stuff called pro cool?

http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Silkolene_ProCool_Coolant_Additive--609801.html

Good or bad??

Works good.  I do not know why this stuff is legal in a race bike.  It is just as slippery as ethylene glycol.   I have heard it cleans up better than regular antifreeze.