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Started by Ducati23, August 07, 2008, 05:24:25 PM

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motomaniac

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Quote from: Ducati23 on August 07, 2008, 05:24:25 PM
I wonder if the fast guys from Moto ST will walk away with whatever money they do pay out. Who wants to ride against Doug Polen in a money race? 
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I'll be at HPT for sure, I'll race whoever,  bring 'em on..

F.Y.I. - I will NOT be at Gateway.
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If it wasn't 1200 miles away for me, I would be there.. maybe next year!
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Quote from: Ducati23 on August 08, 2008, 11:40:34 AM

  I'll call it like I see it a cheap shot by HPT. No matter how you spin it there was 43 weekends that didn't conflict.

Clayton,

There is only 1 weekend out of 52 in a year that HPT is hosting MOTO-ST.  Not sure if you've ever been to a MOTO-ST race before, but MOTO-ST only runs 1 endurance race per weekend and that's on Sunday.  There is no MOTO-ST activity on Fri or Sat except for practice time and qualifying.

To me it's makes sense for both MOTO-ST and HPT to come up with something to fill that gap.  More exposure for MOTO-ST, more revenue for HPT.

I don't see this as a conflict with CCS at Gateway.  Race on Saturday at HPT, race on Sunday at Gateway.  It's about 4 hrs from HPT to Gateway.  The big attraction at Gateway is that it's a double points race date - which has to be a big consideration for those who race all the GP events.

As the majority of riders in the GP region come from NE, KS, OK, western Mo and Western IA, you're not talking about adding much additional travel expense to add a side trip to Topeka compared to what people were already expecting to pay to get to STL.  I don't know
what people are paying in the rest of the Midwest (or for Diesel), but in STL gas has dropped almost .50 a gallon in the last couple of weeks.  Still not where we were last summer, but closer.

Clayton, I think it's obvious what your real beef about HPT is, but if you choose not to race there, that's your choice.  Other people may choose to do both since HPT only races Sat and Gateway only races Sun.

Unfortunately, your post may not have the desired effect and actually hurt your cause as it may add to the registrations for HPT.  Some people who weren't aware of the possibility now know and are aware that they could reasonably do both.

If the grids are small at Gateway I think it might have more to do with the fact that this year it is not a combined event with the MW region.

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APP_Racing

I will be at Gateway.  We have Bob Hayes from MotoGPod coming in for the event and a fair number of local support getting involved.
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Jack_Brock

Well, for me this has been a really agonizing decision, but I've decided to stay close to home and race at HPT.

Before anybody starts flaming, I've made this decision primarily because my wife is pregnant(10 weeks along-what a way to drop that news, huh?), and she has been struggling a bit.  I really feel selfish leaving to go racing at all, but I need an atittude adjustment in the worst way!  Anyway, HPT is only 2 hours from home, and I'll only be gone from mid-morning Friday until late afternoon Saturday which I feel much more comfortable with.  I hope my friends and competitors at St. Louis understand.  I am hoping things are better by the first of September and look forward to racing everybody at Hastings.  For those going to HPT-see you there and can't wait!
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Never met ya jack but heard all about ya (dont worry, I dont believe half of it).  Gotta take care of momma first! 

We'll catch ya next time!

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APP_Racing

Take care of that new little racer.  You will be missed but Lord Help those folks at HPT. 

Its all just a shame that it could not have been coordinated better to bring the entire Region together into one big event. I believe the CCS schedules were out in plenty of time to do that.   I see my local club MCRA (www.mcraracing.com) getting hurt the most as we will loose several of the trackday riders from the West and racers from practice on Saturday. 

In the end people have to make the personal decisions on where to spend there time and money (especially in this economy) and I don't see folks spending lots of time and fuel ($'s) to run across the wonderful state of Missouri.

But for those that can make Gateway we have some wonderful safe events and a lot of fun.  The combined weekend with MCRA and TrackAddix is going to be a blast.  Look forward to seeing those that can make and choose to support there Regional Series.  But if you can't have fun at HPT and enjoy seeing those Big Twins rumble.

Hopefully next year we can see one big enormous event with everyone at the same track for a long weekend.  I think that combination of Regional Club Racers (multi-region), MOTO-ST, various evening events and growing sponsors would be fabulous for all involved.


PS.  BIG CONGRATS JACK, AJ looks forward to having another playmate (non pun intended).
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SnacktimeKC

Quote from: APP_Racing on August 10, 2008, 12:46:20 PM


Hopefully next year we can see one big enormous event with everyone at the same track for a long weekend.  I think that combination of Regional Club Racers (multi-region), MOTO-ST, various evening events and growing sponsors would be fabulous for all involved.



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funsizeracing

Jacks pregnant!?! Congrats!
I miss all the good stuff on vacation.   


I'll be at Gateway.  Wish the HPT race was a different weekend, I'd go for sure.   

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SnacktimeKC

Quote from: funsizeracing on August 11, 2008, 11:02:36 AM
Jacks pregnant!?! Congrats!
   
   



Like you didn't know Jack's pregnant. You're the father!!!

Tornado Bait

Quote from: SnacktimeKC on August 11, 2008, 11:22:20 AM
Like you didn't know Jack's pregnant. You're the father!!!
I just gotta ask, how many toes will the kid have?  And BTW, I'll be at Gateway.
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Grashopr

From the rumors that I heard, (and take them as just that, this is pit-talk and you know where that gets ya), but rumor is that there WAS an effort by CCS and HPT to coordinate the entire region into the MOTO-ST race weekend at HPT, and that CCS was even behind moving the Gateway Race to HPT, but that there was a personality conflict that held the plans up so long that it became too little, too late.   I've said it before, and I'll say it again;  why can't we all just get along? 

I will be at HPT, as I'm out of the points already and the difference in fuel costs is an extra set of tires.  Hope to see you guys at MAM and possibly Hastings #2! 
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