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Started by Blackbeener, August 03, 2008, 10:00:15 PM

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Blackbeener

Hello posting for a friend...
but can I have people's opinions on the unlimited displacement rule for twins the F40 class?
How could it be considered fair and even playing field when you have a 1098cc+ vs GSXR 750? I don't think I need to post the spec sheets from the two in order to make the point there is a rather large gap between the machinery.
I was wondering if anyone else has contacted CCS in regards to this and what the response was. Look forward to the responses.. Thanks    :pop:
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HAWK

Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, up to 1000cc
Four cylinder, liquid cooled, up to 775cc
All other engine configurations, Unlimited displacement


How is your 1098 cooled?

Unless it's air cooled it's not legal.
Paul Onley
CCS Midwest EX #413

G-reg

Quote from: HAWK on August 04, 2008, 12:50:15 AM
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, up to 1000cc
Four cylinder, liquid cooled, up to 775cc
All other engine configurations, Unlimited displacement


How is your 1098 cooled?

Unless it's air cooled it's not legal.


Ye olde rule book says 775cc inline 4, everything else unlimited.  Same rules as heavyweight superbike.  You've got the heavyweight supersport rules there Hawk..
--Greg
MW EX#84

Ducati23

Paul,

Kevin sent a bulletin that updated the rule book about the time 2008 cards were sent out, twins are unlimited, probably as much for the Buell 1125 as for the Ducati 1098. Either way I don't see where the F40 class has been dominated by the Ducati's nationwide. I may race one next season. Maybe even be competitive in F40 on one, maybe. 

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GP SuperTwins Champion 2007 2008
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HAWK

Guess I never saw the update.

Wonder what else is wrong in my rule book.
Paul Onley
CCS Midwest EX #413

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You do know the rule that prohibits anyone who is currently collecting Workman's Comp from racing, don't you?
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Quote from: Blackbeener on August 03, 2008, 10:00:15 PM
Hello posting for a friend...
but can I have people's opinions on the unlimited displacement rule for twins the F40 class?
How could it be considered fair and even playing field when you have a 1098cc+ vs GSXR 750? I don't think I need to post the spec sheets from the two in order to make the point there is a rather large gap between the machinery.
I was wondering if anyone else has contacted CCS in regards to this and what the response was. Look forward to the responses.. Thanks    :pop:

GSXR 750 --- 145-150hp in race trim
Ducati 1098 -- 160 hp in race trim ( I think)

Seems pretty reasonable to me.
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Quote from: benprobst on August 05, 2008, 04:48:48 PM
GSXR 750 --- 145-150hp in race trim
Ducati 1098 -- 160 hp in race trim ( I think)

Seems pretty reasonable to me.

Look at the torque figures.. HP isn't everything...
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Quote from: benprobst on August 05, 2008, 04:48:48 PM
GSXR 750 --- 145-150hp in race trim
Ducati 1098 -- 160 hp in race trim ( I think)

Seems pretty reasonable to me.
I was wondering why my 750 was so slow compared to yours, I'm missing about 15-20hp  :wah:
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Ducati23

Quote from: benprobst on August 05, 2008, 04:48:48 PM
GSXR 750 --- 145-150hp in race trim
Ducati 1098 -- 160 hp in race trim ( I think)

Seems pretty reasonable to me.

Most club raced 1098's are probably only producing about 145~150 hp at the wheel so it should be close. There are probably a few 1098s out there making a lot more power.  There are always exceptions.   
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Ducati 848

ktd

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My 1098 made 146 on DynoJet that was with Racing ECU pump gas.  It sure do not turn like the 750.  I doubt many people will have the R but it should make more.

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Quote from: Burt Munro on August 04, 2008, 04:00:45 PM
You do know the rule that prohibits anyone who is currently collecting Workman's Comp from racing, don't you?
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