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Started by d!ll, July 05, 2008, 11:35:58 AM

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Jeff

I've entered a class by mistake before...  Granted, it was an unlimited race when I wanted heavyweight, but still...
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Gixxerblade

 
Quote from: Jeff on July 08, 2008, 05:30:25 PM
I've entered a class by mistake before...  Granted, it was an unlimited race when I wanted heavyweight, but still...

My first race weekend ever I entered my SV in GTU. I didn't do to well.  :ahhh: :biggrin:

mattg

Quote from: Mongo on July 08, 2008, 05:14:15 PM
I understand the strong feelings about willful cheating - I feel the same way.  However until I hear both sides of a story I tend to not get all excited about something like this.  I've seen racers make much much stupider mistakes than running the wrong size bike in a class. 

For now as long as it was handled by the officials I really can't see getting upset unless I found out they knew what they were doing and it was just to try and get track time or actually thought they could get away with it or something like that - then I'd get pissed off too. 

But I do understand your feelings, I'm just trying to get you to see that people do truly dumb things on accident a lot too.

Agreed. 

I doubt they would do something like that for the track time, they are at a lot of NESBA events as it is.

Knowing the two of them, I really doubt their intentions were be deceitful.

Sobottka

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a 600 chassis and a 750 in motor in GTU isn't deceitful?
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MotoGuy

Quote from: mattg on July 08, 2008, 05:54:17 PM
Knowing the two of them, I really doubt their intentions were be deceitful.

Sure.

Just like flipping their NESBA arm bands over and coloring the back of them green to avoid paying a gate fee wasn't deceitful.

Mongo

Intent is a huge part of whether I'll call someone a cheater.  

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xb9racer

well, they intended not to pay to get in. they cheated and got caught. I believe it's as simple as that.

d!ll

It's amazing the defenders of out and out cheaters here. 

They knowingly and willfully entered the 750 as a 600 in TWO races for Friday, and took a podium spot, ahh that's clearly not just trying deceitfully to get tracktime; had to CHANGE all the other entries for the rest of the weekend  on SAT morning (why CCS (Kevin) allowed THIS is beyond me) and one (at least) of them colored their armband in attempt to weasel out of the $40 gate fee. 

Yet they are defended as honest, what part about those actions are honest? Gimmie a break.  I raced them in the TC (on a 600, team MA Deuce) they're asshats for cheating plain and simple.

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Mongo

Well, no offense but all of this is still paddock rumors and not facts until someone directly involved posts (which is highly unlikely).

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r1owner

Quote from: d!ll on July 08, 2008, 08:04:47 PM
It's amazing the defenders of out and out cheaters here. 

They knowingly and willfully entered the 750 as a 600 in TWO races for Friday, and took a podium spot, ahh that's clearly not just trying deceitfully to get tracktime; had to CHANGE all the other entries for the rest of the weekend  on SAT morning (why CCS (Kevin) allowed THIS is beyond me) and one (at least) of them colored their armband in attempt to weasel out of the $40 gate fee. 

Yet they are defended as honest, what part about those actions are honest? Gimmie a break.  I raced them in the TC (on a 600, team MA Deuce) they're asshats for cheating plain and simple.

So are you saying they had that 750 entered in a bunch of MW classes? 

I can almost understand entering a 750 in GTU instead of GTO, but to enter a 750 in a MW class is not cool.

d!ll

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They HAD their 750 entered in MULTIPLE 600 races over the whole weekend and CSS allowed them to change on SAT morning.

That's exactly what I am saying.