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Hmmm....Wonder What DMG Thinks About This Reaction??

Started by unter_kid, June 26, 2008, 06:36:50 PM

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MotoGuy

Sabre rattling. Even open wheel racing couldn't support a series split.

You can bet there will be further discussions...time to get the all the egos into one room and don't come out until you have a workable rules package--and fast!

Super Dave

Nothing new really.  The manufacturers have been looking to develop a new playing field that they can control since they got word that the rules were probably going to change last year.  DMG knew this.

MIC...aren't they manufacturer supported?  So, the MIC is going to "develop and run" a racing series that is corrupted by the manufacturers.  Seems like we already had that program.

I ways, I expect the Japanese manufacturers go through with this.  It will mess up the American motorcycle road racing series for about four to eight years as a result.  Eventually, the MIC program will go away as DMG has an FIM sanction themselves besides ownership of the various AMA FIM sanctioned programs.

Contract time is coming up for riders and teams.  So, the manufacturers are just throwing this into all of this make everything hard for riders and teams.  That leverage is disappointing.

Super Dave

Ducmarc

wow ,Xaus riding a BMW hope they  got plenty of spares.           why didn't mic come up with this last year? or were they content with Suzuki winning everything and no one in the stands .    DMG probably figures they could crush them with their beer sales in 2 years. they practically own the sports channels .so what time slot is mic going to get   Tuesday morning 6am  you can tell it's an election year    all good words  nascar spends money in ways we haven't thought of. i really don't think their going to take on a whole new series and a whole new demograph and them fiddle fart around with it . their going to pour the money to it . but it's not going to the manufacturers it's going into marketing    beer tee shirts   posters and cutouts at Lowe's their going to tell the manufactures to pay or get off the bus. after 40 years look at a nascar car there's nothing factory about it

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Super Dave

Now I have to look at this statement from Cycle News...

"July is days away and the season ends in about three months. Soon afterwards, testing will begin on the 2009 machines."

I couldn't get my 2006 race bike until March of 2006, while the manufacturer teams had them in September/October of 2005...

You'll also have to recognize that the writer of the Cycle News "story" is Henry Ray Abrams, who was a long time employee with Honda and who has been working against the new program for some time...

This will get one started on that...
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=32013
Super Dave

MotoGuy

http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=33044

Latest update from RRW on DMG's rules proposals and where the OEMs stand. Sounds like Yamaha is on board.

Super Dave

Ok, for racers, if you have dreams, here's part of the reality.

Some motorcycle racers are looking to be upwardly mobile.  As in, the goal is to race pro, and even race internationally.

The international governing body of motorcycling is the FIM.  The United States affiliate has always been the FIM, and DMG has received, as I understand, the FIM approval also.

So, if one were offered an opportunity to race a WSS, WSB, GP series, one would need appropriate licensing to do that, which would come from the home affiliate, currently the AMA and DMG in the US. 

So, a rider that raced in the MIC series wouldn't be acquiring points to achieve international racing status. 

This isn't a concern to the manufacturers, but it would be a real concern to a rider that is looking to be world wide.
Super Dave

PJ721

hmmm seems like Roger has done his homework...and has been listening/working with the FIM to make the AMA series (both Daytona and American Superbike classes) fit into the FIM rules so our guys have a better chance to move up into WSS/WSB and MotoGP.

And kind of ironic that Honda, Suzuki and Kawi all run in Canadian SB with basically the same rules the DMG has proposed for AMA - and they
don't complain about that..............

the saga is sure to continue.....
Paul Castiglia
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And never regret anything that made you smile....

Super Dave

Quote from: PJ721 on June 28, 2008, 12:14:44 PM
And kind of ironic that Honda, Suzuki and Kawi all run in Canadian SB with basically the same rules the DMG has proposed for AMA - and they
don't complain about that...
The Canadian distribution is different.  Remember, American Suzuki, American Honda, Yamaha USA...
Super Dave

Super Dave

Quote from: PJ721 on June 28, 2008, 12:14:44 PM
hmmm seems like Roger has done his homework...and has been listening/working with the FIM to make the AMA series (both Daytona and American Superbike classes) fit into the FIM rules so our guys have a better chance to move up into WSS/WSB and MotoGP.
I don't think the rules give anyone a "better chance".  We have no MotoGP or even 250GP here in a professional series, or 125 for that matter.

But a specific affiliation with the FIM is required for licensing. 

Let's say you want to be a wild card entry at WSB next year in the US event.  You'll get your international license from the US affiliate, currently the AMA. 

Rules are structure.  That's it.  That's about the show.  It can be set up for a level or skewed playing field.  That can affect the show.
Super Dave