Summit point

[Ant]

The track is garbage now. In the wet, forget it. Even with rains on, you go near the epoxy, and you will get a 2 wheel slide even if you are barely leaned over. I crashed in T6 after touching the "whoops" trying to go inside. You can do it but you better hold a perfect line. An expert pitted next to me did the same thing as me but in T5 and crashed. Boo.

[ahastings]

the track was awesome in my opinion. separates the men from the boys. Set a new personal best laptime for me this weekend on the 848.







Just kidding- track is tricky for sure in the dry, and really bad in the wet. But I did go faster then I have ever gone there- don't know how to explain that. If someone would have told me that on Fri, I would have said they were crazy.

[Peter.BoyWonder]

Before I saw it with my own eyes, I thought everyone had to be overreacting.............once I saw it, I couldn't believe how bad it actually was......the bumps really are THAT BAD......I think they should start running motorcross out there.......1,5,6 are perfect rhythm sections. I never rode it with the concrete but everyone said it was better then. What do you think would have to happen for something to really be done about these places or even remove this venue from the schedule?

[mikendzel]

Before I saw it with my own eyes, I thought everyone had to be overreacting.............once I saw it, I couldn't believe how bad it actually was......the bumps really are THAT BAD......I think they should start running motorcross out there.......1,5,6 are perfect rhythm sections. I never rode it with the concrete but everyone said it was better then. What do you think would have to happen for something to really be done about these places or even remove this venue from the schedule?

I don't think removing it from the schedule is the level of reaction needed!!!!  Summit Point HAS to be doing something about the track; i.e. consulting the paving company (I was told by a fellow in Wendy's before the Memorial Day round that the guys who poured the pavement that had to be repaved this last time, were racing their dumptrucks around the track.  The guy worked for the paving company.) about what is going on with the asphalt.  I'm sure the track management doesn't want this to be happening, and I'm willing to bet they address the situation very soon.  As it stands, the new pavement was a complete waste of money, and I am sure they're angry about it.

That said, I'm waiting to see what happens before I pre-enter for September.

[ktd]

I was able to ride it about 2 seconds off my pace.  What I wonder is what it will look like in a month or two months at the rate it is going down hill.

[bel-biv]

Turns 5 & 6 are especially difficult now, but there is an inside and outside line through both of them and both lines work
Turn 1 is the same, except the track isn't in as bad of condition

I too went faster than ever this weekend, knocking about 3/4 of a sec off of my times from Memorial Day
They need to fix it, but its not the end of the world

The rumor I heard is that they are replacing the entire track width in 1, 5, & 6 with concrete
Not a patch on the race line as before, but the entire track width in those corners
Stand-by to stand-by, I guess

Overall, I'm stoked
2 wins, a 2nd, a 3rd, and ummm......a last?  (stupid false neutrals......)
Regardless, I had an awesome weekend

See you fools at the Barber

[Chris410]

The track from a visual inspection was bad...really bad but riding it wasn't.  I think it was hit or miss, personally I improved in all areas BUT...failed to figure out a line that worked for me turns 5-6.  I'm curious on whether the track is going to change prior to the Sept. weekends.  If it does a trackday will be in order otherwise, I know what I need to fix.

I was going very slow through turns 5-6 and my drive was hurt 7-9 by that but I was able to manage 23's which is a few seconds off my normal time so I was happy with my improvements 10 to the entry of 5...but kicking myself that I was unable to find a line that worked because I think I could have put down my best times. 

I think it's the tough weekends that teach the lessons so I learned that I need to work harder and still have tons and tons to learn.

Hats off to everyone, the weekend was pretty smooth all things considered with no "major" incidents.  See you all in September!

[bel-biv]

Time table on track mods that I heard was 2 weeks from now

[clarustnb]

I'm just guessing here, but listening to Mr. Hastings up top, it seemed like one thing to learn from Summit [and I wish I had learned yesterday] was the value in having a well thought out line. 

I noticed that having to 'thread the needle' on Sat. in T8 between the slick epoxy on one side and the puddle on the other, that I was turning better just because I was more focused.

Like Chris said, I guess there's a lesson everywhere.

[Ant]

Good point guys, in all fairness I really didn't go any slower but you really had to be careful out there.

[Mongo]

It's funny how much of a difference focus makes.  We'd always have people who ran faster at night in 24 hour races because they didn't have the distractions and just concentrated on hitting their marks lap after lap.

[bel-biv]

Too true
The way Summit is now, you've got to be real precise
Full-time p's and q's