DMG-AMA-MotoST update...

[PJ721]

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=32070 

[Garywc]

guess we will have to wait and see what happens

[PJ]

Wow.

Game on.

[tug296]

I think this is the right thing at the right time.
While it's entertaining to watch Mladin, Spies and the AMA regulars whip everyone else with their superior everything, it does get a bit less dramatic with every race being just about the same, every time, the whole season, they get out front and nobody can catch them.
No doubt their skills are top notch, but to give others at least a chance at being competitive is a good thing in my opinion.

A formula that creates a more even playing field, power to weight, many different models etc. Spec tires and fuel, no more "special tires" for "special teams" etc.
This has been a problem, I don't care for for the must have this product rule, but it's fair to all.
  The "Litre class" will be there for the "special teams" to dominate?

I hope the factories get on board fully with the new program, some of their long time advatages will be lost, but the series will be more interesting and should grow the sport in a much more positive light.

I used to go to the AMA flat track races at old Jax Speedway half  mile, the stands were big and they sold out every time, used to be a regular stop before Daytona and the races at the old Barber half mile. Jim France was there one night, I spoke with him briefly, he was incognito and is a true Motorcycle Racing enthusiast, for him to be involved in this new venture can only be good.

[cardzilla]

I was going to post this, but someone already did... Is this to say that supersport and superstock are going away or am I missing something?  Surely the mfrs. wouldn't let supersport die... would they?

[Super Dave]

Daytona Superbike is a name.  Figure it is a Supersport styled class that allows more bikes.  Currently, if it's a twin or a triple more than 600cc's, you're not allowed into Supersport.

So, figure a production based program that allows the 848, Buells, BMW, Aprilia, maybe some of the bigger displacement MotoST machines, etc.

How about a dyno limit of 135HP or so?

[hamurobby]

I think the new rules will be great for the racing, and I love the weight restriction, INCLUDING THE RIDER! which will allow guys who are larger (say up to 170lb) to be compeditive and participate. hopefully, the ASRA minimum weight for bike and rider will pass this year and eventually will end up in all classes including club racing.

They already have a bike and rider weight minimum in usgpru 125s 

I think 120hp is plenty? less stuff blowing up, easier on the spec rear tire  8)

[n2racing6]

Looks a lot like 'throttle stop racing' on brand P tires and brand S fuel. Hopefully the HP limits are high enough that the basic pipe and map work do not require throttle stops (as most of the moto ST big bikes now must use to stay under the HP limit). Needing to detune a box stock bike is not a good plan.

[firebolt]

DMG and Roger Edmondson suck! Spec tires, spec fuel, and all kinds of other dumb restrictions all in the name of what? Well...... dumbing down racing! Down to the NASCAR idea what motor racing should be. This "stock car pee on" Edmondson does not know his ass from his elbow about motorcycle racing. Rolling starts? What the fuck is that! He is a certified moron! Rolling starts were implemented in early 20Th century board track racing because the machines were direct drive, no gearboxes or clutches! There is no excuse today for such nonsense. The idiots that run NASCAR have not figured this out yet. I hope ALL of the manufacturers tell "dingleberries Dingman" and DMG to shove their racing up their collective asses! Its time for ASRA to step up and keep real motorcycle racing in the U.S. alive. Regards, Dan

[JBraun]

DMG and Roger Edmondson suck! Spec tires, spec fuel, and all kinds of other dumb restrictions all in the name of what? Well...... dumbing down racing! Down to the NASCAR idea what motor racing should be. This "stock car pee on" Edmondson does not know his ass from his elbow about motorcycle racing. Rolling starts? What the fuck is that! He is a certified moron! Rolling starts were implemented in early 20Th century board track racing because the machines were direct drive, no gearboxes or clutches! There is no excuse today for such nonsense. The idiots that run NASCAR have not figured this out yet. I hope ALL of the manufacturers tell "dingleberries Dingman" and DMG to shove their racing up their collective asses! Its time for ASRA to step up and keep real motorcycle racing in the U.S. alive. Regards, Dan

You obviously have no idea who Roger Edmondson is.    Do some research.

[n2racing6]

Firebolt, Roger Edmondson knows a great deal about motorcycle racing--he founded supersport racing in the late 80's, he also was the man behind the AMA-EBC pro endurance racing series. While I don,t care for the proposed class structures, the idea behind it is to promote close racing and put fans in the seats, which is a great idea. I would prefer to see big bore superbike racing, but with a more level playing field--if your team/sponsor has the dollars they should have access to the same parts, which has not been the case for many years-just ask Mr. Jordan or many other well funded teams over the last 15 years. My concern is the trickle down effect on the club racing scene. If I am right about the spec tire being brand P, then I doubt that brands D, M, and B. will be interested in doing much race tire development with only club racing in mind. Also, I can see a change for the worse with manufature contingency money at the club level, which is where the bulk of us play. Let us take a wait and see attitude until the rules package is put down in print.

[zeroice]

yeah, this is good stuff in general and really makes the competition fair. but I have to disagree with the spec tire. Each motorcycle maker sells their bike with their own respective tire so its only fair to allow that same diversity.