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Started by PolishPete, March 19, 2008, 01:44:22 PM

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Quote from: Mongo on March 28, 2008, 12:53:46 PM
If you have white numberplates on a motorcycle with race bodywork and you are not an expert level racer then you are posing.  Sorry but the aesthetic argument while cute doesn't wash. 

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Boober

Quote from: MotoGuy on March 28, 2008, 09:39:27 AM
It goes beyond respect. One more thing to consider. Safety.

When I'm on the track, whether it's a track day, open practice or whatever, I will put a certain amount of trust in a rider with white plates (at least initially). I will draft close behind you, I will pass you close, on the inside, outside, whatever, because I trust that you have experience and you know what you are doing. Sometimes these are snap judgements based on what you can see instantly as you are closing on someone--like a white plate.

I'm just saying some noob riding around with white plates may get a** packed when they sit up early and start braking way too soon for the corner. Or they might get spooked and run off the corner when someone else puts a close pass on them that any expert can handle. Don't be that guy.
+ 1 millllllion !!!!  Any newb shows up at a track day with white plates has to tape over them in my book for this very reason!  That`s something to think about as it may happen!

rwracer

Well that might be a legitimate concern if noobs and advanced riders were on the track at the same time on track days, but I've never attended a track day where that ever happened so can't imagine how it would be a concern.   And then we could get into the whole "white plates on the race track who don't deserve to be white plates" tiredass debate but that's not gonna change either.

The real bottom line is:  none of this crapola every really matters at the track.  Your bike passes tech or it doesn't and every one treats each other very differently there.  This nonsense only happens here where people have nothing better to do with their time.  So both sides in this silly little debate got a bit too serious.  Just go to the track, leave the nonsense at home where it belongs.  Track day rider or racer, if you're showing up at the track, you're in the right place.

peace

PolishPete

Quote from: kwracer on March 28, 2008, 06:59:19 PM
Well that might be a legitimate concern if noobs and advanced riders were on the track at the same time on track days, but I've never attended a track day where that ever happened so can't imagine how it would be a concern.   And then we could get into the whole "white plates on the race track who don't deserve to be white plates" tiredass debate but that's not gonna change either.

The real bottom line is:  none of this crapola every really matters at the track.  Your bike passes tech or it doesn't and every one treats each other very differently there.  This nonsense only happens here where people have nothing better to do with their time.  So both sides in this silly little debate got a bit too serious.  Just go to the track, leave the nonsense at home where it belongs.  Track day rider or racer, if you're showing up at the track, you're in the right place.

peace


Now this is a good point.  I've been on this board for 3 yrs lurking and it seems that this has been the attitude in the past.  This argument over the plates seems a bit off for me from the norm here. 

Mongo

They're two totally different discussions.  One is about being smart about where to push the limits of your machine.  The other is simple respect for those who can get more out of the machines and have proven that ability.

Sean P. Clarke
WERA Motorcycle Roadracing
www.wera.com


rwracer

#65
And Sean do you honestly care all that much about how track day riders paint their bikes?   The topic seemed a bit lightweight for someone of your considerable knowledge and experience, knowledge that I seriously respect as much as anyone.

For myself I care more about white plates at the track that lack speed and/or skill than I do about white plates at a track day.

Amusing (for me) anecdote, I put white plates on my street bike a bit ago and went to a track day just to shake out the rust and dust (me, not the bike) and I guess it was the street fairings but a couple noob track riders who didn't know me stopped by to offer me their advice on everything from being careful on a cold track to how I applied my stomp grips on my tank.

I just smiled and thanked them for their help and we all enjoyed a day at the track.

peace

Mongo

Do I truly care?  of course not. 

I respect what it takes to get to the white plate level in racing so since the subject was here and I was here, I joined in.  I'm not going to walk up to anyone with white plates and give them shit if they're not an Expert level racer, I may however point and laugh if it's a trackday.  Then again I point and laugh at Experts a lot too....hmmmm.  Maybe I have a P&L issue :)

Sean P. Clarke
WERA Motorcycle Roadracing
www.wera.com


rwracer

#67
No, that's cool,  I can relate.

I was just curious.

rwracer



Another curiosity question.  Is your BBS down now, or just for me...

Mongo

It's down.  I'm enjoying the break so I haven't bothered telling the guy who runs the server  yet....  :)

Sean P. Clarke
WERA Motorcycle Roadracing
www.wera.com


rwracer