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We're slow huh? Well, I wonder why....

Started by Tezboogie, March 05, 2003, 12:00:35 AM

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ecumike

I agree with you there, but it's always fun to dream.

The only 'what if' that I always wonder about is... 'what if I started riding cycles when I was like 10.. I hear of all these guys starting riding like before they could walk (MightyDuc).. and just wonder how good I would be if I started waaayyy back then. (as opposed to getting my 1st cycle (Ninja 250) in 93)

Tezboogie

I don't care about getting a factory ride. All im saying is that it is very hard trying to be competetive against, let alone beat MR. Factory dude. It'll never happen. If it does, they will tear you down until they find anything that they think is not legal. When I say anything, I mean ANYTHING. You will be disqualified in a heart beat. Ask 4&6 racing about that one if you think im lying. It happened to them along time ago at RA. But when people that also race try to dis your shiznit, i think that's just haten shizit. I enjoy racing against anybody who wants to race, but I don't have no pipe dreams. I don't do this for a living, I do it because it's more fun than almost anything that I have done in my life. I've been in it for 3 years.......I wish I would have known about it when I was an 18 year old kid. I would have tried very hard then to get a factory ride. But now, im just an old slow dude out there having a little fun.

R6Chris760

But now, im just an old slow dude out there having a little fun.

If you're slow, I guess I'm super slow.  It's always great to race no matter where you finish.  Tez, what are you riding this year if you're selling your 750?

Tezboogie

What the dealio Chris!!!
How ya doin? Dude, im riding 600 and 1000. I loved my 750..... i just can't afford to ride three bikes this year. I'm broke. I might be going backwards, but I hope not. We'll see what happens.....
What about you?

Super Dave

Hey, I was the one that thought you and Weeden should have done better.  My expectations for you guys was higher.

As for AMA experience.  I've done it.  I don't need to do it anymore.  I'm old, poor, and it won't get me anything I need.  

You can do it.  And probably should.

As for factory bikes...  They are different.  A bit.  It is a package.  Can you compete?  It isn't cheap.  But is the point to win?  It has to be.  It can be done.  Would Yates go faster on your bike?  Yes, I've raced with him over the years.  He would.  Nothing against you, because you ride well, but Yates can ride the wheels off a bike.

Unless you're chasing a perfect set up all the time at different tracks, it's hard to appreciate what it takes to do AMA Pro racing.  You've got to be ready to go out of the box.  Willing to put your elbow into someone during practice for that one lap.  It's not the play time that I have at CCS events anymore.  It's the big show.  

Sure isn't like racing Blackhawk most of the time, right.

As for Chandler at Daytona CCS...

He's just workin' out some stuff.  Why should he go break his @$$ for that and take someone's money away.  He's just working on his set up.  When he's ready to light the switch, he'll turn it on.  

And you need to do this a little longer so you can hardly afford one bike, Tez...LOL! 8)
Super Dave

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I can hardly afford one bike and I just started. :P
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ecumike

QuoteI can hardly afford one bike and I just started. :P

Ditto on that. And it's not getting any cheaper.

fourandsix

The unfortunate truth about racing AMA 600 is that it is not only HP, Suspension,or balls. The whole package is what counts! This is the first year in a long time we will not run the AMA 600 class ourselves, main reason $$$$$$ . It is impossible to be competitive without spending huge amounts of money , but even large amounts of money won't get you in the top ten at a 600 race unless the top 10 guys all fall down.The hardest thing is setup , if you don't have the experience running at the front of the 600 pack it's like spitting in the wind.You need someone to prepare your bike that has that experience and be willing to pay for it. If not stay where your at and be happy with what you can accomplish.

Super Dave

Yeah, Jim.

Isn't it sad?  There was a time when it wasn't so bad.  It just isn't much of reality anymore.

And Tez...  what do you do that you can afford those cool shades (they looked better on me at the banqet) and race two bikes?
Super Dave

Tezboogie

Well said 4&6. I'm staying my broke butt right where i am, but it is fun trying. I knew what the outcome was gonna be anyway. At least I didn't get lapped. Like i said though.....come out of 14 at RA lined up with a factory boy and see what happens. Poof.

Dave, what are you doing up at 5 0'clock in the morning? Must be dreaming about backin it in, in turn one at Black Hawk huh? Lol.
Ok, we should have done better, but wtf....how do you race factory people around the biggest road course in the US (4 miles) with l o n g ass straights and expect to keep up with them. I rode my ass off and got left like used toilet paper. Jim is right, you gotta have a lot of LOOT to finish in the top 10. May be they'll sell us a factory ss bike (ok, everybody laugh at the same time).
Aaron Yates is fast as hell and he would beat me on my own bike, that's for sure. But I know someone who never got a factory ride that would beat Aaron Yates on his bike too. I seen him do it plenty of times at Road Atlanta right before Aaron got the Suzuki ride. Hmmmm......i wonder why the other guy didn't get a ride? He was younger, if that matters.

I gotta love this racing stuff though, cause I spend every dime that have extra on it.
Anyway, i need some help with my set up. Ummm, remember im broke, but you can have those pimpy glasses. Lol.....

sdiver68

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QuoteThe unfortunate truth about racing AMA 600 is that it is not only HP, Suspension,or balls. The whole package is what counts! This is the first year in a long time we will not run the AMA 600 class ourselves, main reason $$$$$$ . It is impossible to be competitive without spending huge amounts of money , but even large amounts of money won't get you in the top ten at a 600 race unless the top 10 guys all fall down.The hardest thing is setup , if you don't have the experience running at the front of the 600 pack it's like spitting in the wind.You need someone to prepare your bike that has that experience and be willing to pay for it. If not stay where your at and be happy with what you can accomplish.

Since 600 is becoming and Superbike has been the 2 true "factory" classes, it seems privateers that want to shine do so in the SuperStock and FX classes.

Can I ask, by factory SS bike, do you mean the true full factory rides?  Or the semi-factory teams like Corona, Attack, Vesrah, Graves, etc..?
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Super Dave

QuoteDave, what are you doing up at 5 0'clock in the morning? Must be dreaming about backin it in, in turn one at Black Hawk huh? Lol.
Ok, we should have done better, but wtf....how do you race factory people around the biggest road course in the US (4 miles) with l o n g ass straights and expect to keep up with them. I rode my ass off and got left like used toilet paper. Jim is right, you gotta have a lot of LOOT to finish in the top 10. May be they'll sell us a factory ss bike (ok, everybody laugh at the same time).
Aaron Yates is fast as hell and he would beat me on my own bike, that's for sure. But I know someone who never got a factory ride that would beat Aaron Yates on his bike too. I seen him do it plenty of times at Road Atlanta right before Aaron got the Suzuki ride. Hmmmm......i wonder why the other guy didn't get a ride? He was younger, if that matters.

I gotta love this racing stuff though, cause I spend every dime that have extra on it.
Anyway, i need some help with my set up. Ummm, remember im broke, but you can have those pimpy glasses. Lol.....

Monte and I worked and beat a factory bike at RA.  You can do it too.  I think Monte could have went faster.  Just need a little change to the set up.  I'll call that an error on my part.

5AM?  I was up at 3AM.  My body just WOKE UP!  Hello!  I was thinkin' 'bout them glasses!
 8)
Super Dave