Buell XB9R in LWSS?

[tshort]

The XB9R has push rods.

The 92 hp is at the crank, 77 at the rear wheel sounds about right.

Having ridden one, SVs are still competitive.

The bikes running with 748s (Hal's bikes) are bigger than 1000cc and have extensive engine work (ISTR the AMA rules allowing some thing like 1300cc).

Oh - right - OHV=overhead valve, not cam.  So it's a pushrod - and I didn't realize the hp numbers were quoted differently for different manufacturers - or are they all quoted at the crank?

Anyway, guess this horse is about dead, so I'll leave it alone and see what turns up at the track...

thanks for all the clarifications.

[tzracer]

Virtually all hp figures are from the crank.

All the dynos I saw at Harley-Davidson (owner of Buell) were crank dynos.

[sdiver68]

May be an excellent opportunity to get sponsored by the local Harley-Buell shop  :)

Nothing those Harley guys would love more than being secure in the knowledge that if Harley really wanted to race, they would kick the @$@#$ out of those Jap rice burners.

No, stop there, that's all they need to know, they won't listen to anything about displacement or anything.

[Baltobuell]

 Part time is right. A stock bore XB is not a powerhouse. Their asset is handeling. Any controversy would be based on is it a stock motor. Yes the race teams have been putting 115 on the ground, but that is a SERIOUSLY modified bike with 1350cc that gets a new crankshaft every 2 or 3 races. I think anybody could spot somebody dropping money like that in CCS and what would be the point?
 The X1, at 450lbs, was sold as 101hp, reality is, with pipes, K&N, race module and power commander, expect almost 90 at the wheel. The XB is 219cc less displacement.
 Has anybody ever argued SV's should be middleweight and GSXR's in lightweight since the SV is a 650. THE CC SIZE IS NOT AT ALL THE ONLY FACTOR.
 I think it's the noise that worries the SV riders. I had a guy tell me he went faster than he thought he could because he was being chased by a helicopter the whole race.:) Don't let Buell riders intimidate you with their stuning good looks either, just get out their and try to catch up:)

[Super Dave]

Has anybody ever argued SV's should be middleweight and GSXR's in lightweight since the SV is a 650. THE CC SIZE IS NOT AT ALL THE ONLY FACTOR.

Don't remember seeing it recently.  But, with all the recreational racers, I'm sure it's been floated around recently....
 :D

[duc995@aol.com]

You don't have to worry about the Buell...just don't be behind them when they explode!   ;D

[Super Dave]

DOH! :o

[Baltobuell]

  I feel like a dog at a cat show.

[MightyDuc Racing]

You don't have to worry about the Buell...just don't be behind them when they explode!   ;D

Don't be behind them period.  Followed one for a straightaway and got all kinds of stink on me. ;D  Passed him as quick as I could so I could see daylight again. :D

[Baltobuell]

 You guys use a total loss electrical system
 We use total loss oiling ;D

[part_time_racer]

We are still talking about LWSS with stock XB984 internals, right?  The oiling and breathing systems are vastly improved on the XB series bikes vs. the old sportser based engines.  They don't leak, burn, or vent any oil even at redline for extended periods (full tank of fuel).  Trust me, I know from experience.  

[Baltobuell]

 I saw the firebolt rocker boxes on a S1 at Daytona and you are right again. BIG improvement. Firebolt heads are supposed to be a big improvement as well. I don't believe firebolts will be a quarter of the problem the Sportster motors were. Buell really went a long way as compared to the X1. Now if I could only pick the right lotto #s.