Robert Marshall arrested on DUI

[spyderchick]

Link to RRW

Not a good start.

[Court Jester]

everybody makes mistakes. i'm sure he'll pay up to the courts and all will be good.

[garrettrick]

im not saying its right, but its not that hard to get a dui nowadays...just sucks when somethin like that happens and everybody jumps to a conclusion, its humiliating enough its on RRW. id rather pay a cab any day of the week then drink and drive, just not worth the trouble...

[Team_Serpent]

I was wondering how long it would be before someone posted about this when I saw it this morning.

So who's Lindsey Leard?

Kinda bogus of him/her to bring it to everyones attention.

Like garrettrick said - not that hard to get a dui nowadays, humiliating enough - everybody jumps to a conclusion.

I've been lucky to avoid this type of thing - I'm sure there were times in my younger years that I drove when I shouldn't have.  I'm sure there are a lot of people out there that at one point in time in their life have driven under the influence, some I'm sure thought they were fine to drive others knowing they shouldn't.

Just a bad deal all around and serves as a reminder of what not to do.

[Super Dave]

Well, it happened.  It was going to get out either way.  Easier now than one day or five weeks down the road.

As for it being easier to get a DUI today?  LOL!  Has there been a design change in the delivery system or the sump that collects the beverage in question?

[Burt Munro]

Following is an email I just sent to RRW......

Dear RRW,

While I would never trivialize anyone getting arrested for DUI, the fact that Road Racing World published this surprises me.

The fact that this was submitted by a member of CMRA makes me suspicious as to the motive behind this.
I'm sure that it's just a coincidence that CCS-South will be attempting to attract riders from the same geographic pool as CMRA.  And I'm sure that it's just a coincidence that members of CMRA have been attempting to discredit Robert Travis Marshall since the October CCS ROC.

Is it fair to arrive at the conclusion that RRW supports CMRA in this attempt at discrediting a race organization official?   Or is it standard practice for RRW to publish traffic violations of this nature for all race officials?

Rick Weaver
CCS Midwest Tech Inspector/Starter
St. Peters, MO 

The only time I recall RRW publishing legal issues of members of the roadracing community is when it has involved theft or business transactions.  I may be wrong on this and feel free to direct me to precedents for this action, but I don't recall ever seeing the arrest of someone for DUI published by RRW previously.

[spyderchick]

It was news, JU published it. I don't think that means he's chosen sides as the arrest is public record. If he wouldn't have done anything with the info, others would accuse him of hiding facts. He can't win for trying.

Personal opinion------>Don't want to get caught in a DUI? It's called a taxi. They even have these new fangled things called cell phones. Mighty handy for calling a friend if you don't have the extra $ for the taxi.

No one is jumping to any conclusions. It said he was charged, not convicted. He will have his day in court, as he should.

[Super Dave]

Well, they did post up information when Brian Gibbs got busted on drug charges...
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=30538

Anthony Gobert?
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=19366

How about thefts?
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=28509

[BigJerm7]

would it have been a big deal if he killed somebody?

[Court Jester]

Anthony Gobert?
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=19366

.....Gobert's recent arrest for suspicion of Driving Under the Influence.

Someone can be arrested for suspicion of DUI??? what's that about?

[GSXR RACER MIKE]

.....Gobert's recent arrest for suspicion of Driving Under the Influence.

Someone can be arrested for suspicion of DUI??? what's that about?

I believe that's what they charge you with in some states if you refuse the sobriety test(s), I believe it will carry some type of mandatory penalty like loss of license for some period of time and/or a monetary fine.

[benprobst]

.....Gobert's recent arrest for suspicion of Driving Under the Influence.

Someone can be arrested for suspicion of DUI??? what's that about?

When your stoned out of your mind like Gobert likely was, then yes they can do whatever they want to you 

[Johnny B]

Someone can be arrested for suspicion of DUI??? what's that about?

Sometimes there is a two tiered system involving drinking and driving. I haven't been in a position to study the law for a long time (Thank God!) but in Massachusetts they have OUI (Operating Under the Influence) and I believe that the minimum BAC for that charge is .08. That breathalizer reading is the only evidence needed to convict. Now those who register a BAC of .05 up to .08 can be charged with Driving While Impaired. In order to convict, supporting evidence must be presented, such as weaving all over the road, accident, slurry speech or failure to pass the roadside sobriety test.

[HAWK]

The following web page gives some interesting information on Drunk Driving Deaths.

All 16000 of them in 2005.

http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics.html

I'll stop there as my feelings about what should be done to drunk drivers would not be appropriate material for this board.

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

I'll stop there as my feelings about what should be done to drunk drivers would not be appropriate material for this board.

Probably the same as mine.

[Helmsman]

The following web page gives some interesting information on Drunk Driving Deaths.

All 16000 of them in 2005.

http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics.html

I'll stop there as my feelings about what should be done to drunk drivers would not be appropriate material for this board.

I'm guessing they are the same as mine.  I'm only 23, and i all ready know 5 people who would have been around my age who are dead because of drinking and driving.  Penalties could stand to be a bit stiffer as far as i am concerned.

[Garywc]

I was hit by a drunk driver once
in the middle of the afternoon
not much fun... i would love to see stiffer penalties  for DUIs

[Team_Serpent]

I to was hit by a drunk driver in '96 while on my street bike.  My left arm was broke in 4 places and will never be the same.  My earlier post was not condoning what he did.   

[danman67]

I was wondering how long it would be before someone posted about this when I saw it this morning.

So who's Lindsey Leard?

Some of the people in CMRA are going to bitch whine, complain and find any way they can to get digs in towards CCS. Just the way the same bunch whined and bitched about RPM/WERA.

[Johnny B]

As for it being easier to get a DUI today?  LOL!  Has there been a design change in the delivery system or the sump that collects the beverage in question?

It's easier because the days when you or I would get a stern lecture and then told to drive straight home are long gone. Too much of a liability nowadays, so you get arrested.

Oh well.........

[ahastings]

Also the limit used to .1 in most states thay has been lowered to .08 which is questionable qas to how impaired you really are at that point. I will bet that a lot of racers on here have driven all night to get home from races with no sleep, guess what, you are driving impaired, but there just is no way to measure it. I am not condoning driving drunk, just bringing up some points.

[L8brake731]

You can be cited for not being able to maintain control of your vehicle (being tired, emotionally distraught etc.)
I live in a state that contributes to more than 10% of the DUI or DWI deaths.
In this state, it can not be more of a clear message that if you operate any motor vehicle on a public hi way or road; and are caught, you will 1) be subject to an FST or be arrested for suspicion of DWI, 2) lose your license(s) for a period no less than six months, 3) spend 24-36 hours in our fine incarceration system, 4) and if found guilty, that is after paying an attorney to represent you, pay restitution to the State (about $6000.00), 5) attend AA classes, 6) the final straw; deal with our insurance companies to obtain an SR 21 to become insurable again.
Pretty clear as to what not to do here. Similar in your states?

Why put yourself in this situation to begin with, it's what you'd be asking yourself after this type of ordeal

I'd much rather spend my $14k or so on racing another year

[resurection]

Some of the laws may be to much to explain other than revenue.
  In 04 or 05 they changed to .08 in IL. the day they changed that my Friend was pulled over and blew .08 he received the DUI. One day earlier and he would have been legal.
Maybe they weren't making enough money @.1
Besides the law makes it legal to sell liqueur ,cars ,guns ,on the same corner ,but you can't drive home from bar carrying a gun WTF.

[rogers1323]

I don't agree with drunk driving either, but I have a friend who had 3 beers at dinner over the course of 2.5 or 3 hours and was pulled over after leaving the bar/restaurant.  She happens to weigh about 110 pounds, so she blew over the .08 limit and was charged.  She was in no way drunk.  And was pulled over by a State Trooper who sits outside that bar and pulls over young girls that have been inside.  He pulled over another friend about 2 weeks later and charged her with a DUI as well.  She only blew a .06 with the road side breathalizer and was taken to the police station and charged anyway.

I think there should be a higher BAC level (more in the range of .1) and stiffer penalties for those that blow over that limit.

[Garywc]

DUI also gets a reckless driving in the state of NJ
but to charge someone with DUI is also up to the officer it they show impairment without blowing the .08 he has the right to charge them while driving impaired.
as far as body weight of 110 pounds and 3 beers over 3 hours it is highly unlikely that they would blow a .08.  the average person  one drink per hour (+ -) if your friend had 3 beers in 3 hours after the 3rd hour it would be equal to about 1 beer in her system. which kinda sucks if she was .08
i don't think they lowered it to .08 for money reasons. like i said they can charge you even if your blood alcohol content inst at .10.
they can also not charge you and have you get a ride home instead.

[fatboy122]

I was hit by a drunk driver once
in the middle of the afternoon
not much fun... i would love to see stiffer penalties  for DUIs

I too was hit by a damn drunk on July 2, 2002 at 5:00pm, i was coming home from work..he blew a .26..i knew the guy..once i made it out of my totalled car and found out who did it, i was shocked..then he was shocked when i kicked his ass on the side of the road, infront of NC Highway Patrol and ems workers..my back still hurts..he spent a few months in jail and then was busted again for DUI..ya gotta love the system..

[Keith Hertell]

Some of the people in CMRA are going to bitch whine, complain and find any way they can to get digs in towards CCS. Just the way the same bunch whined and bitched about RPM/WERA.

For me personally, it was never a whine or bitch.
RPM was started due to a crybaby not wanting to turn Expert.
CCS South was started due to a crybaby not wanting to turn Expert.

I never whined about it, but I wonder why some people would want to be associated w/ that type of wanker.

Facts are Facts and R. T. Marshall worked CCS for a novice title. Yea he was within the rules, but it still seems shady to me. Then he goes and starts his own CCS series!?!?!?! He's a first year "expert", now he can run CCS-S?

Oh, to stay on topic, I see nothing wrong w/ RRW writing about it. But, I don't think it shoulda been sent to them either.  I think this has little if anything to do w/ his racing/running CCS-S. I kinda feel sorry for the guy as far as thats concerned.

[251am]

Oh, to stay on topic, I see nothing wrong w/ RRW writing about it. But, I don't think it shoulda been sent to them either.  I think this has little if anything to do w/ his racing/running CCS-S. I kinda feel sorry for the guy as far as thats concerned.

  Yeah, it's kinda pointless to complain about a broken system that only feeds more $$$ to municipalities, w/o actually addressing the problems. Until the penalties are into the $5000-$10,000 with immediate license revocation for life, drunks will still drive drunk and kill people. After that they'll STILL be driving drunk.

  Why is this a topic in Racing section? Beacause JU put  it on his site?   




   

[Vanderkolk5]

Admin edit. Seriously digging up a 10 yr old thread to spam for a dui lawyers office. How pathetic. bye bye

[spoot]

ummm...a ten year thread here.