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« on: November 28, 2007, 10:21:50 pm »
Has anybody have any comments on the Scotts reusable/washable oil filters under racing demands? It certainly would pay for itself over throwaway in 5-6 weekends.
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Re: oil filters
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2007, 11:09:07 pm »
I think I'd be little skeptical. The information I see them marketing is that they have 35 micron holes while the other filters on the market are in the 90 micron range. I use AMSoil filters which spec 98% efficiency at 15 microns and if you do a little research you will find most manufacturers filters are speced at 20-30 microns so I'm not sure what Scott is using for a comparison filter but I think 35 micron  is a little rough for my bike.

Even if you pay $15 each and change the oil every weekend you are talking the cost of less than one tire, not a good place to go cheap.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2007, 01:50:41 am »
Hell I bought regular filters by the case for $40 or so. Nice thing was both teh YZF and the F2 used the same filter. :biggrin:
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Re: oil filters
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2007, 08:33:50 am »
It's a nice filter.  Not sure if it paid for it self.  Looked cool.

The OEM filters are pretty darn good.

Some of the EMGO filters have been known to be able to allow a more free flow of oil, and that has been shown to increase HP in a racing motorcycle.
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Re: oil filters
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2007, 10:26:04 am »
The biggest difference is the consistency of the mesh vice that of any paper element.  Paper is very inconsistent and the mesh is extremely consistent.

I ran the scotts for a few years.  It was a love/hate relationship.  I blew out a couple of O-rings and realized that was a required maintenance on the filter.  Ultimately I cracked the casing of the filter which was its demise.

The biggest bitch of it was that it was longer than my OEM filter which then started hitting the headers on the 600RR.
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2007, 01:12:00 pm »
True the cheaper paper filters are not very consistent but the better conventional filters these days are a synthetic material which has much better consistency. I believe I am paying $9 for my AMSoil filters which are a synthetic material. It is definately not an item to go cheap on.
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Re: oil filters
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2007, 08:56:09 pm »
Quote from: Hawk on November 29, 2007, 01:12:00 pm
True the cheaper paper filters are not very consistent but the better conventional filters these days are a synthetic material which has much better consistency. I believe I am paying $9 for my AMSoil filters which are a synthetic material. It is definately not an item to go cheap on.

I still remember back in the late 90's at Road America when someone had their cheap ass oil filter's O-ring fail and it sprayed oil on the track in the kink. My freind was one of 7 racers that crashed due to that, he ended up in the collection of bikes and riders accumulating in the hay bails that were guarding that concrete wall on the outside of that fast turn (no air fence then). Luckily my freind wasn't one of the racers that had to be transported to the Hospital.

From what I heard the guy had saved $3 by buying an off brand filter.  :wtf:
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Re: oil filters
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2007, 12:36:57 am »
Yah I was involved in that crazy crash! It was 1999. Except by some fate I didn't go down. I'll never forget it. One other guy and then Larry Denning of whom I just let past me into turn 8 crashed right in front of me! My bike went to full steering lock as I thought I would high side but luckily the rear tire hit Larrys downed bike and threw me back forward as I landed on the gas tank. I looked back and saw nothing but crashing bikes as guys were hitting the haybales! Oil was all over me & my bike.

I had a customer once tightened an O.E.M. Kawasaki filter on his 03 ZX6RR at my shop. He asked me if it was tight enough before he safety wired it and I thought it was good. He took it around Blackhawk for only 2 laps and crashed on the way into Turn 3 from the oil filter oring blowing out. I never did see it after it burnt up the bottome half of the bike. I have heard this happen on several different brand of filters.
I'm sure glad it hasn't happend to me.

One thing I have noticed is that usually some aftermarket filters have very little threads that actually grab onto the bolt threads of the engine. Looks scary to me. I used O.E.M., K&N, & Hiflofiltro filters with no problems.
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2007, 06:11:58 pm »
thanks everyone. i think i will use the one i have on hand for the first weekend and see if i can get a dicount on a case from a vendor at the track. K&N's. o rings and leaks aren't much of a safety concern because my filter is internal. Husqvarna smr . Stop me at the track and say hi. #517 at loudon. Merry Christmas , mike walsh
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