Heartland Park

[Burt Munro]

Here's an onboard video (with Ray driving!!) of 2 laps using the new configuration at 1/2 and 8.   

http://www.hpt.com//store/catalog/video/2_laps_hpt_07.wmv

[LMsports]

Thanks for the video. Funny how quickly changes are made when the cages complain...

[Super Dave]

The AMA asked for changes too.  Those were part of those results.

[LMsports]

I don't buy it. I don't see AMA coming near the place as long as there are questionable walls. When runoff room is improved then maybe we'll be a step closer.

[Super Dave]

AMA races where the sanction fee is paid, and they have room on the schedule.

As for run off and the AMA, please see Road Atlanta turn twelve.  Or the previous Road America carousel, the previous Kink, the current Bend.  California Speedway?  Mid-Ohio snafu's and run off issues.  I could go on, but I would fill up a whole thread.

[bigreid]

I can't wait to run the new setup, I saw it today on speed.  Walls are only there if you let your mind think they are (I also enjoy Gateway).

AMA coming to Topeka? That would be sweet!

[Garywc]

maybe in 2009 its not on the AMA schedule for 2008

[rogers1323]

Walls are only there if you let your mind think they are (I also enjoy Gateway).

Are you serious?  Because I hope you're joking.  Walls are only there when you crash and hit them.  This has nothing to do with perception of danger.  The only issue to be discussed is actual danger based on run off room, and if you are willing to take the risk.

[smite1]

I also enjoy Gateway.

Me too!  Check out this vid of Gateway in the rain!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kfmWx0tYRV8

[bigreid]

Are you serious?  Because I hope you're joking. 

Yes and no.  I really do enjoy Gateway but I do understand walls are dangerous.  I'd like to see HPT have plenty of  runoff  room on the new higher speed sections. I know old turn 8 has plenty because I have tested that out several times.

[motomaniac]

Some of the walls in that video have already been moved, as well as a light pole.  We rode it in October.

[LMsports]

As for run off and the AMA, please see Road Atlanta turn twelve.  Or the previous Road America carousel, the previous Kink, the current Bend.  California Speedway?  Mid-Ohio snafu's and run off issues.  I could go on, but I would fill up a whole thread.

Dave, what you said is all true. But those are all tracks that the AMA has been running at for some time and are already in the schedule. When a new track wants to be added an AMA representative visits the track and makes a determination about the feasability of hosting an AMA event. Usually even tracks that are safer than tracks that are currently on the schedule are given lists of significant changes that would have to be made before AMA would return. Obviously the AMA still goes to Road Atlanta every year, but if Road Atlanta were trying to get a date for the first time, or trying to get a date again after not hosting an event for a few years then the AMA would most likely turn them down. A great example is Brainerd. Brainerd hosted AMA events for years, now they are trying to bring one back again and have a laundry list of changes that need to happen before they come back. So new tracks are held to a higher standard than those that seem to be "grandfathered in" based on already being a part of the regular schedule.