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total points put me in expert class?

Started by Spooner427, October 23, 2007, 03:42:52 AM

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Quote from: LilJayRR on October 23, 2007, 09:54:47 AM"The total points for all classes (not the overall points that are used for regional championships) regardless of PI is used by the computer to generate the advancement list. There are other criteria used as well; official recommendations, class championships, rider requests, and ROC finishes."

What they mean is that for the Expert 'bump' it's the total of ALL points you've earned in ANY and ALL classes you've raced in.

The Overall Regional Points Championships that determine the Top 10 Expert number plates for next year use a different calculation, they incorporate Performance Index and exclude points earned in certain classes - but that has nothing to do with your situation.
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brotekind269

If you are getting scared out there with experts, maybe you shouldn't move up just yet. There is always a pucker factor, but you should never be scared. I plan on moving to expert next year and treating it like I'm a first year novice again. just anxious to get to the track and learn what I can....

roadracer162

Spooner,

My take of racing is that the goal of any racer is to get to expert status. An expert rider is measured more on ability and smoothness and not so much the outright speed. A slow rider on a fast bike will be erratic, a fast rider on a slower bike will be smooth. I suggest to not measure by points but more on ability.

I was never placed on the points upgrade list but requested the bump after two years. It was the best change I coud have made. Racing against more talent is so much more satisfying and the rider improvements have been great.

Mark
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Quote from: Spooner427 on October 23, 2007, 02:37:46 PM
Ok so if I made 445 in the overall regional then I made enough to go....
So now who has gone from the "meatgrinder" to the expert class. I can only assume it has better racers who won't be trying to kill you are bounce you off in the corners.

  Last year I had a bunch of podiums and finished Mdwest Am. 2nd Supertwins, 4th HWSB, and 5th HWSS, and was moved to Expert on podiums rather than points.( I didn't really keep track of points.)

  I went to the white plates this year, but only one weekend, and then I realized I was burned out. My finishes were top 10, and I ran pretty good for my times @ BFR, all variables considered in a completely different bike, and I'll stop mumbling to find the point. It depends on your goals as someone else pointed out. I knew that in order to approach the podium with Experts I'd need LOTS more work on the machine and my fitness. Time, energy, and money all mixed together with an intense focus that I did not have at the time. Consider a couple things for Expert running especially in the MWs; Fuel and tires. As you pull an Emeril and BAMMM, kick EVERYTHING up a notch, you're gonna need a higher state of tune in all depts of your program; race fuel, more tires, dyno time, brake work, fitness level HAS to increase to run with the likes of Hall, Girard, and Edgar. :-)  Improved Safety pretty much depends on you. Try it. I bet you'll like it.   

Spooner427

I am on the fence. If I stay back for 1 more year I will have to go up next year which is fine. Hopefully the crazy fast guys in amateur will be force up and then it will be a tighter knit group at the front. Going up won't be bad just wish it would get me totally away from the meat grinders, otherwise I feel I should just stay and run with them.

LMsports

If you have run that many races for the past 3 seasons I believe you should move up. Moving up is a step towards improving your riding and racing skill. I have NEVER seen a rider move to expert and not go faster. I'm sure you will also enjoy the pride and sense of accomplishment of earning your white plate as well. Enjoy your successes.
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Quote from: Spooner427 on October 25, 2007, 03:27:13 PM
Hopefully the crazy fast guys in amateur will be force up and then it will be a tighter knit group at the front.

there are crazy fast amateurs every year...

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gntbldr

Dude, spooner, I'm taking the bump . you and I normally ran close to the same at BFR so at least you'll have me to go at it with out there.
I haven't talked with Billy yet but I'm almost positive that he'll be running white plates next year too.

It's going to be a great time regardless of standings. :thumbsup:

Spooner427

**LMsports**
It is an accomplishment to get the white plate and I ride my bike on the street so I will be able to ride with a bit more pride.

**gntbldr**
Glad to hear other peeps I know will be there with me. I have tried to email Billy but he doesn't answer. I have his number and will probably end up just calling him when I get time. 

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