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Started by foughtstrong, October 05, 2007, 02:04:31 PM

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gixxerlvr

I race a gixxer 750, and what they are saying is right, although it can be ridden on the track you definetly need some instruction, I went to Superbike school Level 1 and 2 and out here I went to cornerspeed on my 750, and now I race it, fun bike but definetly needs to tamed if your not used to riding at speed.  good suspension and brakes, race tires and warmers and you shuld be money.  Good luck!!

Ty

foughtstrong

I appreciate everyone's opinion.  I see that the support from the track carries over to this forum.  I've never seen a competitive sport where everyone is willing to help someone else out.  Thanks and that's one of my reasons I LOVE THIS SH*T and will continue this sport, starting with some track time.  Mikendzel the 03 was the last year of that body style, but thanks for the website, it gives me somewhere to start.  Thanks to everyone and keep brining your suggestions.

GSXR RACER MIKE

The thing that really jumped out at me was when you said your suspension was bottoming out, that can easily cause loss of traction. The suspension acts as a buffer or cushion to absorb the changes in grip, track surface irregularities, weight transfer, etc. With the suspension bottomed out it doesn't take alot for the tire to break traction, even the action of the suspension itself bottoming out in a turn could cause loss of traction.

No matter what bike you choose, I would upgrade the suspension 1st!
Smites are a cowards way of feeling brave!   :jerkoff:
Mike Williams - 2 GSXR 750's
Former MW Region Expert #58
Racing exclusively with CCS since '96
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tstruyk

i just kinda scanned... how did you fall down?  hit something?  get hit by something?  lose the front?  go off track?  that might help give some insight as to how to fix your "problem".

some poeple just come across bad luck on thier first few races...
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foughtstrong

Both times where at turn 1 at VIR.  The first time I was rolling through the apex and the bike just went away from me, all I remember is my fender hitting my upper fairing.   The second time I was braking, down shifting and starting my turn and that's all i remember.   The second time I hit my head pretty hard and lost consciousness for a minute and don't remember much of that morning.

resurection

Heavy springs or more preload .
If your over 200lbs progressive spring can help .
If your fender is hitting fairing it's way to soft.

EX_#76

Quote from: mikendzel on October 06, 2007, 01:14:30 AM
A really easy way to get some of your suspension problems eradicated is to go to sportrider.com and look up your bike's suggested settings........  If the 03 is the same as the 04, here is what you need:

* PER SPORT RIDER  *
note: set fork tube height to 10mm showing above triple clamp 
GSX-R750 ('04)  10/04 
             FRONT
Front Preload - 4 lines showing
Front Rebound - .75 turn out
Front Compression -  2 turns out
             REAR
Rear Preload - 9mm thread showing
Rear Rebound - 2.5 turns out
Rear Compression - 2.5 turns out 





Guy, I thought a soft suspension DECREASED feel???  When I stiffened up the suspension on my bike it felt as though I could feel every little bump, as opposed to the comfortable ride it came with stock.

My comments do not refer to feeling bumps, they refer to traction in the turns.  I have not softened it to the point of wallowing or riding like a boat.  I feel that a softer setup gives me more warning when I reach the traction limits.  When I first started riding I would loose traction suddenly then slide or crash as a result.  My master (who happens to be very very fast) recommended lighter springs. I changed them, and suddenly I was able to read or feel the very beginning of the traction limits being reached.  Now I am a believer in soft setups.  With the stiffer set up, I was missing the subtle beginning of the slide (before the wheels start to get out of line).  I do not care about feeling every little bump unless it is making me slide, I care about being aware of the limits of traction.  It is just my opinion, if you feel more comfy with a stiff setup, then stick with it.  As I said in my post all I can say is this works for me.  I have set up several bikes for others and they have all responded favorably to these light set ups, so I know this can work for others, but I am sure it is not for everyone.  Some people can go real fast on hard setups.  What ever works.  If you don't try you will never know for sure.

Guy
Guy Bartz
MW EX #76
Mass Reduction LLC Home of the Grip Doctor

resurection

I agree With the deft feel idea .
The progressively stiffer spring should allow feel and resist bottoming!