Wave starts

[red900]

And this is unexpected in amateur racing? 

Also, I forgot to add that there was 10ft of space between us, he crossed the track at least 10' at a 45deg angle..  We were not elbowz and knees

[Super Dave]

I will tell you what dave, you would not have done the hair brain move this guy did...  Why, because you understand what implications it could have on both riders not just because  "you are in front therefore you have the right to weave all over the track".... 

So, did I say he had a right to weave?

No.

Does it happen in amateur racing?

Yes.

Amateur racing is rough because of things like your example.  I fully recognized what you're talking about (the ten foot thing).  It doesn't make it right, but it happens.  One should expect the unexpected. 

In expert racing, you generallly know who you're racing with and what to expect.  It is different. 

Good luck!

[Super Dave]

Of course we all have to prepare for the unexpected, but seriously how much can you prepare for?  Prepare for everything and you will not even step foot on the track.  In my opinion, which everyone seems to disagree with because I have cheated my way through this season and I am one of those asshole CR's with nesba, is that a new person to the track cannot be expected learn everything on their own in a race environment, and  needs feedback as to track etiquette at a minimum. 

Well, I agree with you.  There is a minimum etiquette.  As an example, there's a minimum etiquette for leaving the track.  In expert practice, I just about got balled up at the exit of six by a rider in July.  But, etiquette is only etiquette.  Is is reasonable and safe to do those things?  Yeah.

Did you talk to the race director?  I has to be the minimum thing we do as racers to when that stuff happens.  Some times that stuff is happening to other riders.  If no one speaks up, well, it may never get to the guy.

[red900]

That is the way I feel Dave, Thank you for clearing up your opinion.  I was confused a little..

The went right to the guy, and talked to him about it.  I am not much of a middle man guy, I go right to the source.  He started out very defensive, but softened up and started listening after a couple minutes.  He is a good kid, very fast, just a little unruly....

Hense my original comment.  I do not think that second hand information through the race director would have sufficed in this instance because this was not a one time incident, this guy had no idea what he was doing could be detramental. A race director would have lost the point in translation.   He has always thought it was just fine to do that....  I would have cought it at a track day, and explained it to him right after the session, who is to do that at the race track?

[Super Dave]

Hey, no problem.

I'll usually go to the race director.  I'm a small show, and I don't have much of an opportunity to waste time.  Additionally, if there's a problem, usually, it works a couple ways:  it's an isolated incident or its a thing that happens all the time.  If it happens all the time with a riders actions, the race director is hearing about it from other riders. 

I might be hard on people at times, and I might even be hard on Bill at times, but when these things have happened, he's been very, very good about handling them immediately.

It still sucks for you, I know.