How about this?

[Mongo]

Dual dry break, excess fuel goes into the vent line.

[Mongo]

And I don't care about the size - if the gatorade bottle is faster, you're either doing it wrong or your equipment is set up wrong.  The only thing I've seen faster than a drybreak was a home made dump for a SS team - it was made by the guy that builds winches for all the Cirque shows and Spiderman movies so he's not your normal racer in that regard.

[PJ]

Hi George,

Yes, MOTO-ST requires dry break fuel equipment. And I can see how that might be a barrier for a team that just wants to try one round.

Radio equipment is not madatory. You can use pit boards. Crew shirts, well, we're just trying to look professional. It's not required, but it's part of the show and we're all trying to make this thing work. Matching crew T-shirts would accomplish 90% of the same objective.

As far as the costs to run a single round, outside of the 8-Hours at Daytona, it's pretty similar to the costs of a regular CCS race weekend. $400 entry, $50 gate, we get by with one set of Pirelli spec tires ($350), and race fuel ($100 or so). All in, I figure it's about $1,000 per weekend (not including towing fuel, but I assume you're thinking about entering a MOTO-ST race during a weekend that you're already attending, like Road America).

However, if you finish the race, you'll earn your entry fee back. And if you finish in the top 3 of your class, and/or up in the overall order, you'll get a nice bonus. Lead laps, more bonus. Race a Buell or Ducati, add OEM contingency. Top 3 in class also earns Pirelli tires back. You can see the purse breakdown on the MOTO-ST web site.

As far as crew goes, if you're racing during a regular ASRA/CCS weekend, I bet you could find guys willing to help out. We pretty much draft family, friends and fellow racers for our crew.

I strongly encourage you to try a round. It's fun. It's professionally organized and managed. You'll learn a lot and have a great time.

If you want to talk more about it, stop by our pit this weekend, or PM me.

[firebolt]

Gentlemen, I agree MOTO ST is an intresting formula. I just have a hard time with NASCAResque rules, and most importantly a rolling start? With a safety car? Endurance racing in Europe does "Le Mans Style" starts. That's adds an element of grace to it all, don't you think? But again, does anyone agree we need an American version of a "no holds barred" type of motorcycle racing. A super FX series based on my wacko set of rules I have sort of outlined in my first post. And for heaven's sake please use open exhausts on those Buells! Calvin Rayborns spirit will smile! Regards, Dan

[Ducmarc]

consdering the amount of track time and that it's profesional looking series the rules are to keep it resonable and you can win your money back i don't see how you could go wrong i also noticed that it seams a little safer with less crashes. i just don't know if i can go the distance . unless i joined the Y now that's an idea. going back to your FX idea without factory support it would be the richest guy wins race and now with a water cooled rotax buell the pushrod bike might be done.

[Super Dave]

I've looked at the MotoSt stuff for a while and while it looks like it would be fun I kind of lost my excitment due to some of the very specific requirements.
Thoughts?

George

Yeah, there are expenses for a one off opportunity.

But it's being developed as a professional racing opportunity very much unlike CCS's Team Challenge.  It pays to thirtieth place, bonuses for lap leaders, and bonuses for top three finishers.

TV?  The AMA put up uniform requirements in the early 90's.  I don't know if they have always enforced that or if they still have them. 

[Super Dave]

Endurance racing in Europe does "Le Mans Style" starts. That's adds an element of grace to it all, don't you think?

You'd have to see a Le Mans style start.  It's pretty scary, and I always wanted to be out of the way of it. 

But again, does anyone agree we need an American version of a "no holds barred" type of motorcycle racing. A super FX series based on my wacko set of rules I have sort of outlined in my first post. And for heaven's sake please use open exhausts on those Buells! Calvin Rayborns spirit will smile! Regards, Dan

Who can afford most racing as it is now? 

Your formula starts with an open set of rules, but it doesn't address how anyone is going to afford it through payback or even spectators. 

Mongo remembers the Forumla USA series of old with methanol GSXR1100's and YZR500 GP bikes.  It was neat, but it didn't last.  In the end, it became dyno controlled.  When there was a good purse and a end of year bonus, it was very good.

Even MotoGP has a set of rules. 

[Mongo]

It didn't last because we shut the company down - really had nothing to do with the class rules.  Hell, our F1 rules are still the same. Switching it to a limited class is what really killed it.  However, with the way tracks are now it's not really feasible to have a run what you brung class, MotoGP is a perfect example.

[Super Dave]

Didn't Gonda buy it from Huth?  Then did Doug sell it to CCE?

[Mongo]

Joint venture between Protac and WERA, bought the name/class from Huth, then when we shut down Pro Series we sold our half of the name to Doug for a buck to get it all over with. After NASB tanked he sold it to CCE at the same time Roger sold CCS.