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[Super Dave]

Click the link I have posted.  Buy it from there at that site.  It's inexpensive, and it works.

Europeans?  Um, they do races on street courses.  IOM is a quick example with houses imediately off the course.  They do it, and they recognize the risks also.  The European based FIM world championships had courses like the IOM on the world championship schedule.  Spa was on the schedule for a long time, and it's actually made up of public roads.  The "Bus Stop" is actually a bus stop. 

[Super Dave]

I heard this today...

Rider Donnan killed at Tandragee

John Donnan was a former Irish Superbike Champion
The Tandragee 100 motorcycling meeting was abandoned on Saturday following the death of a competitor.
Ardglass rider John Donnan was killed during the Supersport 600 race at the Northern Ireland road racing event.

The 42-year-old crashed at the chicane near the start-finish area when attempting to avoid another competitor.

Donnan's bike was catapulted into the nearby paddock area by the crash and narrowly avoided hitting a number of team officials and spectators.


Donnan was a former Irish Superbike Champion and had also run his own road racing team for a number of seasons.

He had competed in motorcycling events for 20 years.


Clerk of the course Bobby Edgar said that the meeting had been abandoned "as a mark of respect to John's family".

"The North Armagh Motorcycling Club extend its sympathy to John's family. We have done a lot of work on the circuit to improve safety but it's a dangerous sport," said Mr Edgar.

There had been an earlier crash on the same part of the circuit in Saturday's meeting although that rider was not seriously injured.


Earlier, Cameron Donald had produced a record-breaking lap to win the first open race at the meeting.

Donald became the first rider to produce a sub-three minute lap in the event by charging to an average speed of 106.3mph on the circuit.

The Uel Duncan Honda rider edged out Dubliner Martin Finnegan by .20sec while Keith Amor took third place.

William Dunlop took victory in the concurrently run 250cc race.

[Ducmarc]

you're right dave I forgot about the English equation but with all the good tracks in the country plastic rumble strips in the parking lot of a stock car track seems absurd for the AMA and my friends that raced supersport last weekend tell me that if you touch the rumble strip you crash I guess that's what happened to Santiago. we'll see tomorrow on the speed channel.

[Super Dave]

if you touch the rumble strip you crash...

I'll agree.

But if you put a tire in the dirt, a similar thing can happen too. 

Also, Keith Code pushed a curbing idea probably fifteen years ago for race tracks.  His idea was to develop a curbing system to be put down temporarily at every track, especially those that cars raced on, to develop a new line that wasn't through so many bumps.

In years past, there have been haybale chicanes, 2x4 chicanes, garbage can chicanes (when riders got injuried by them because they held them down with blocks, they changed to water jugs...which shot water everywhere), and cones.

At some point, something is needed.  As a racer, one has to recognize the risk and deal with it.  Don't run over the stuff...

[Ducmarc]

really enjoy chatting about these subjects with my business and racing Fla and southeast i have not spent much time thinking about the logistical problems in our sport now that i have a couple more months of bed care it gives me time to think about these issues and maybe not have the standard knee jerk reaction that i have had in the future . and maybe do something constructive for the sport.