Look at what's legal in CCS MWSS

[aaronson37]

I help wrench for a friend this past weekend at Homestead.He came in second in the expert MWSS. I ran over to the tech garage for a post race inspection of the air filter.I notice a air duct fabricated out of aluminium used  to channel air on the front calipers to the winner's bike.To me it's a illegal mod to the bike.I grab the tech guy and voiced my opinion that it was illegal.Tech guy gave me a look like what do you want me to do about?  After no answers from him, I ran up stairs to Kevin Elliott and told him the situation and again more funny looks.He pulled out the rule book and started to thumb around the pages and said there is a grey area on whether it was legal.I'm not going to get in on what exactly he said cause there was no straight answers.Only that it was up to the rider to file protest and DQ him for using aluminium instead of plastic,carbon fiber or fiber glass which he stated would have been legal.Then it would truely be part of the fairing.Long story short no protest was filed, my buddy figured the so called rider was not going to contest the whole season.Tech guy came over to me at the end of the weekend and said I was in the right and they where going to post a bulletin . .

[Court Jester]

so that would be legal if it's made out of plastic or whatever the front fender is made out of... right???

[aaronson37]

so that would be legal if it's made out of plastic or whatever the front fender is made out of... right???

Yes that is what I was told,by keven Elliott. Carbon fiber,plastic or fiber glass are ok.Could help out on the 1000 more than the 600 I think.

[ecumike]

Wait WTF... you're complaining b/c it was made of alum and not the proper material, which, could weigh less and give it more of an advantage? 

[aaronson37]

Wait WTF... you're complaining b/c it was made of alum and not the proper material, which, could weigh less and give it more of an advantage? 

You guys are right, why have rules.Rules are over rated i guess supersport should have a anything goes policy.As far as I know stock R6 out of the show room doesn't come with a air duct.Yamaha must have sent a technical bulletin for the dealers to fabricate a air duct to the calipers.My mistake.Moderater please delete this post,thanks

[cold]

whoa buddy.........

[ahastings]

so that would be legal if it's made out of plastic or whatever the front fender is made out of... right???

If it is considered a fairing then  according to the rulebook it must be made out of plastic, cf, or fiberglass.

You guys are right, why have rules.Rules are over rated i guess supersport should have a anything goes policy.As far as I know stock R6 out of the show room doesn't come with a air duct.Yamaha must have sent a technical bulletin for the dealers to fabricate a air duct to the calipers.My mistake.Moderater please delete this post,thanks

yes there are rules for supersport legality. don't confuse what is legal for CCS supersport as what is stock. There are certain things that are not allowed in supersport as spelled out in section 6.1 of the rulebook and the way it was explained to me is , if it doesn't say that it is not allowed then it IS allowed. For example, there is nothing in the SS section that says cooling ducts for brake calipers are not allowed, only that the brake calipers must be original equipment.

[Super Dave]

I'm with Arnie on this.  CCS "supersport" is certainly not stock.  There is no weight limit either.  So, he can remove the starter, etc.  Yamaha R6's come with that.  They don't come with Power Commanders, aftermarket exhaust, aftermarket wave rotors, steel braided brake lines, 520 chain and sprockets, full replacement cartridge fork kits, fiberglass bodywork, aftermarket shocks, or $10 a gallon (and up) racing fuel.

Brakes are pretty darn good on modern production bikes from the mid-eighties and up.  I don't see any huge performance advantage, but maybe a safety issue?  But, if we wanted to, we could make safety issues out of a lot of hot parts.


This is a good thread, though.  Two ways:  illustrates some of the strangeness of CCS supersport rules and it is an exercise in the value of some modifications.

[r1owner]

I'm with Arnie on this.  CCS "supersport" is certainly not stock.  There is no weight limit either.  So, he can remove the starter, etc.  Yamaha R6's come with that.  They don't come with Power Commanders, aftermarket exhaust, aftermarket wave rotors, steel braided brake lines, 520 chain and sprockets, full replacement cartridge fork kits, fiberglass bodywork, aftermarket shocks, or $10 a gallon (and up) racing fuel.

You can do all that?  Damn I wish I had more money! :)

[Super Dave]

I'm in your boat.  I don't do all that.

[251am]

I notice a air duct fabricated out of aluminium used  to channel air on the front calipers to the winner's bike.Tech guy came over to me at the end of the weekend and said I was in the right and they where going to post a bulletin . .

  Got another pic from an angle that is more from the front?


Did you guys ever talk with the winner about it?

Check out this month's RRW and the article about the guy from Spain who came over here to race AMA'S Superstock last year and HIS big surprises as to what was legal in Superstock. It's an eye opener for sure.

[Super Dave]

I've read it, but I don't see where they said what was so strange.