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Lap times @ BHF for AM LWSS versus LWSB???

Started by SV88, January 12, 2007, 04:20:03 PM

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EX_#76

Quote from: SV88 on January 19, 2007, 10:26:11 AM
No slamming (no pun) intended at all... Just having a little fun.  I guess Guy is a little sensitive after all the abuse!!

But seriously, this is a good introduction to racing vs being taken down from behind like my son was at a mx practice at Lake Geneva Mx.

I found that I was riding over my abilities in the rain at BHF when I was being held up by a white plate.  Should have been a little more patient instead of going down under braking for corner 6.

I'm not sensitive about the abuse at all, it is all in good fun.  I preach to people about being patient while riding / racing ( after all it is just a little block of wood, and bragging rights that we are competing for.  not worth endangering anyone over).  I was worried that your comment could have been interpreted as "I was dangerous or impatient on the race track" ( I am sensitive about that ).  I understood what you meant but, this is a public forum and others may not have understood, so I went on damage control.  I do make mistakes on the track, and they are just that mistakes.  I do not intentionally take risky passes, although errors have put me in some risky situations.  I work hard on my mind set before during and after being on the track, to keep my emotions in control.  I try to apply "logic only" to riding.  I have made errors at times, as to where I thought a pass would be complete.  That is what happened when I passed you in the carousel and then, parked it in  front of you.  That pass happened later in the turn than I had anticipated, and it messed me up!!! 

Guy Bartz
MW EX #76
Mass Reduction LLC Home of the Grip Doctor

EX_#76

Quote from: dylanfan53 on January 18, 2007, 11:24:18 PM
Let's fold our hands and pray:

Dear Lord Baby Jesus...little, tiny Christmas Baby Jesus,
We thank you so much for this bountiful harvest of new white plates in Lightweight classes.  We thank you for their smokin' hot pretty new bikes that will boost grids so we old white platers can make contingency quotas.  Please make Guy and the other crew of new white plates play nice.  Make sure they at least show us a wheel before they come at us like a pack of rabid spider monkeys.  And let them remember all the free tips and spare parts we gave them when they were yellow plates so they have mercy on our poor, old, scuffed up budget-constrained carcasses.
Amen
:preachon:  :err:  :thumb:
    


Cook, you are killing me!!! Tooooo funny.  You may have a future as an evangelist (in some strange definition of the word)
Guy Bartz
MW EX #76
Mass Reduction LLC Home of the Grip Doctor

Monkey_Star

It seems like the expert lightweight class consists of the same 4 or 5 guys that are running at the top year after year after year. All the ones that could probably make a big dent end up switching to middleweight bikes. Hopefully this year we'll see some new faces in the top 5 eh?

Super Dave

Year after year...well, you have a really good core of guys that are "older" and committed.  So, they are continually around.  Average life of a road racer is two to three years, so they usually circulate out rather than move to middleweight where the tire costs go up so much.
Super Dave

George_Linhart

Yes, I have been granted the honor of putting white plates on the Ducati.  I look forward to helping fill the grid to make sure that it makes contingency quotas.  There are some very good experts (hell, there were some very good amatures last year).  I don't know for sure if I will be able to break into the top 5  - particularly at BHF (unless of course it rains); however, that won't stop me from trash talking on the board!

It is going to be a very fun 2007!

George

EX_#76

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Quote from: Monkey_Star on January 19, 2007, 02:12:55 PM
It seems like the expert lightweight class consists of the same 4 or 5 guys that are running at the top year after year after year. All the ones that could probably make a big dent end up switching to middleweight bikes. Hopefully this year we'll see some new faces in the top 5 eh?

A friend of Lee Davis (who's name escapes me) summarized this phenomena in a nutshell.  His statement was "lightweight bikes got no cred".  Although I believe that middleweight classes are much more competitive than lightweight classes and the straightaway speeds are higher, all of the same skills apply to every class.  But people tend to dismiss the fact that no matter what class you ride, it takes skill to be competitive.  People say it is easyer to ride a lightweight than a middleweight, maybe that is true but, the separation in difficulty is much narrower than people want to believe.
I do think that it is tougher to win a middleweight race because the depth of talent in those classes is deeper into the field than lightweight.  There is top talent in all classes, just more of them in middleweight. 

Queation and answer form Jessie Janisch.  What is the difference between lightweight and middleweight?  "There are 5 Ed's in middleweight instead of 1"
Guy Bartz
MW EX #76
Mass Reduction LLC Home of the Grip Doctor

Super Dave

I remember Jesse saying that.

Some classes just work better for some riders too. 

I would agree on how some riders do not give lightweight credibility.  But Jesse and Blake Young were capable lightweight riders before they got really fast on bigger bikes.  There is always a lot to be learned that can be translated.
Super Dave

dylanfan53

#31
Quote from: EX_#76 on January 19, 2007, 02:03:26 PM

Cook, you are killing me!!! Tooooo funny.  You may have a future as an evangelist (in some strange definition of the word)

Evangelist? Please no! I could use the extra dough.

I am thinking about having Bill recite that prayer at the morning rider's meeting.  :thumb: 

It will be an interesting year in the midwest... :err:
Don Cook
CCS #53

EX_#76

Think about it Don  :rollseyes:, all you have to do is create you own religion, construct a Tabernacle, spread your message, then ask them for money...  and its tax free!!!! :thumb:

WHoooHoooo!!!
Guy Bartz
MW EX #76
Mass Reduction LLC Home of the Grip Doctor

grasshopper

#33
Quote from: Monkey_Star on January 19, 2007, 02:12:55 PM
It seems like the expert lightweight class consists of the same 4 or 5 guys that are running at the top year after year after year. All the ones that could probably make a big dent end up switching to middleweight bikes. Hopefully this year we'll see some new faces in the top 5 eh?

I'll be in there next year. I can't show my face every weekend, but will be at a few this year with fresh white plates chasing Ed Key (Hopefully). And if its raining Ed will be chasing me, the moisture missile   :thumb:

Mr. Bartz! It will fun racing with you again. Last Wegman weekend was the most fun I have ever had road racing in my life. Good times my friend, very good times.  :cheers:

Mr. Cook , Mr. James, Mr. Moore... All the Midwest White plate lighweight guys. I look foward to racing you.  :cheers:

EX_#76

Ya Nick it was a real fun weekend, you certainly made it interesting for me.  Hopefully that new motor of yours is not too much faster!!!

Next season will be very interesting, All of us newbe white platers have allot of learning to do.  I just want to have someone to ride with, sharpen my riding, and have some fun
Guy Bartz
MW EX #76
Mass Reduction LLC Home of the Grip Doctor

tzracer

Quote from: grasshopper on January 19, 2007, 11:28:29 PM
And if its raining Ed will be chasing me, the moisture missile   :thumb:

There is just something wrong about that statement.
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