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Started by ahastings, January 06, 2007, 01:19:20 AM

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ahastings

    I understand CCS needs to make a profit. By that reasoning Daytona should be points for every region, what is the difference? How many more racers are going to travel  over 800 miles to a race that they have to pay twice as much to race at and twice as much to stay in the area for extra points. I hope not many, because I won't do it.  I can do 6 extra regionals by skipping Daytona and Barber. Therefore someone like myself is less likely to chase the series and CCS loses even more, sometimes I think they need to look at the big picture.
      My point is still Daytona is not even close to the Mid-Atlantic region. Don't call it something it is not.They want to have a region that encompases the entire east coast, then call it the Eastern US region. Like I said I don't even live in the MidWest region, I live in Maryland on the east coast and Daytona is farther than every single MidWest track except Topeka and MidAmerica. WERA runs a MidAtlantic region also and they don't have the need to include Southeastern tracks in the region. I like the CCS class structure a little better and the fact they award overall expert #s for regions, but the WERA regions make much more sense travel wise.
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Super Dave

A similar case was made about Barber not being either Midwest or Great Plains.  Gingerman was on the Great Plains schedule at one time. 

You're really going to have to ask Kevin.  Or talk to the MA racers themselves.  You're the only one from the MA in this thread.


As for cost of entries, distance traveled, etc.

There is precedent where big events at big tracks with big rentals bring, generally, more entries.  Barber, Road America, and Daytona are excellent examples.  AHRMA was built on that, and, when they moved away from that, their membership and entries declined.  They used to race at Road America.  They don't anymore.  They used to race at Road Atlanta, and they don't anymore.

I can feel for you. 

Not every racer lives 800 miles from the furthest track too.  Some live close to the futhest track and have to travel 600 miles six times a year.  It isn't "fair" for them either.  What is equitable?

When I lived in Omaha, Blackhawk Farms was 440 miles away one way.  We'd go there a couple/few times a year amidst other tracks.  We didn't follow a series, really.  We just hit the tracks that we thought were cool.

When Roger Edmonson took a gamble on Heartland Park Topeka in 1993, he put four or five races there, I can't remember how many.  The region was made up of Heartland Park Topeka and Talladega Grand Prix Course.  Well, Tally was a thousand miles from my house.  Made Tally about 800+ miles from Heartland Park.  We had two races at Talladega, which were combined with another region.
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Quote from: Jeff on January 06, 2007, 10:28:54 AM
I logged 4770 miles in 2006 for race travel. 


Lightweight try 10k plus,  :whine:  :biggrin:
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1993 - 33k :whine:

Tires still cost more.
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Jeff

Quote from: BlueRidgePerformance on January 07, 2007, 10:15:35 AM
Lightweight try 10k plus,  :whine:  :biggrin:

hehe... oh yeah, I by no means claimed to be high on mileage.  I figured I was pretty average for running a full region.  Anything national will be +10k.

Still wondering how many miles we'll put on for the fund this year.  My guess is 'a bunch'... :-)
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Quote from: BlueRidgePerformance on January 07, 2007, 10:15:35 AM
Lightweight try 10k plus,  :whine:  :biggrin:

10K blah. When I ran cars we raced everywhere from Laguna to Sear Pt (infineon now) to Riverside (home track), Firebird, Road Atlanta, Watkins Glen, Daytona, Mid-O, Long Beach and Road America. :biggrin:
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SVbadguy

I raced the full Mid-Atlantic schedule in 2005.  7700 miles not counting the 5 rounds at Summit Pt which are only 80-mile round trips for me.  Only a few racers live closer to Summit than me. 

Then I finished off the season with another 1600 miles for the ROC at Daytona.

Too much driving.  That new track under contstruction in New Jersey would be a good change to the schedule.  Even closer than VIR!

Super Dave

I think that's what was said about Autobahn Country Club.  It was close to the Chicago Market, and it should have drawn some racers even from Michigan.

Might not be everything everyone wants.

One can hope.
Super Dave

Jeff

Quote from: K3 Chris Onwiler on January 07, 2007, 01:12:52 PM
And you'll be doing it without the Pimp Van!   :biggrin: :thumb:

But I'll be doing it in the full comforts of the mobile mortgage :biggrin:
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Zee Pimp Van ess officially unstickerized!  The process took a mere 8-10 hours....
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Spooner

All of us GP region guys had been complaining for a while until Dean from Trackaddix came in and saved us!  Now the furthest I drive is 4 hours! (except for RA).  I never did the full series until this year and the travel is a huge part of it.  Luckily we have a pretty natural series here because of so many tracks in relative proximity to Kansas City-I really feel for a lot of you guys-but I do wish we still had Barber on the schedule-that was one drive I didn't mind too bad lol!
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