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grasshopper

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Which Rods to Buy?
« on: January 05, 2007, 04:05:39 pm »
For my SV

Corrillo H-Beams or Falicon Knife

The corrillos are a little more money.
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Re: Which Rods to Buy?
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2007, 05:57:08 pm »
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Re: Which Rods to Buy?
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2007, 08:17:35 pm »
Is this where all of the SV guys aren't offering any advice as to not let their secrets out?  Personally I still have the stock stuff in mine...if they are good enough for Suzuki then they are good enough for me.  Rods are expensive and that same amount of money sure buys alot of track time.   

Back in high school I built a hot-rod and used the Carillo rods.  Guess they never broke but they sure are pretty!

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Re: Which Rods to Buy?
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2007, 06:44:37 pm »
Dave, never heard of Crower rods. More info please thank you.

Is this where all of the SV guys aren't offering any advice as to not let their secrets out?  Personally I still have the stock stuff in mine...if they are good enough for Suzuki then they are good enough for me.  Rods are expensive and that same amount of money sure buys alot of track time.  

Back in high school I built a hot-rod and used the Carillo rods.  Guess they never broke but they sure are pretty!

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Vic, if people don't want to give up info it doesn't matter to me. There is no secrets to building a solid SV superbike motor.  Frankly, I don't care if people know what is done to my motor either. I'm not chasing a championship. I just want to build something strong/mildly powerful/ and reliable for this coming season to race a few expert races and track coach with STT. I'll be on the track alot so a full blown superbike motor isn't happening. I'll run stock heads. But I am definitely spending the money where it counts and on the weak point of the SV and that is on the bottom end (crank) and rods. I've spun my fair share of connecting rods on SV motors. I think I'm on my 3rd or 4th motor being spun up.

I'm going with Brians advice at Valley Racing and going the carrillo rods.
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Re: Which Rods to Buy?
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2007, 07:51:03 pm »
Nick,

I got 95 hp out of an SV that ran a complete CCS mid-west season. Here are the components I used:

41 mm Flatslide Keihin's
Lightened flywheel
Carrillo H beam rods
1 mm over JE pistons, custom made. Higher compression
Ported Heads <<<--- Very important to get a good engine builder to do the heads. They are worth a lot in hp!
Custom Valve Springs
Ti Valve keepers
Megacycle Stage 3 cams
Undercut magnafluxed tranny



My buddy now owns the bike and she still runs strong.


Carrillo rods are better than Falicon Knife from everything I have heard.

Also, if you ever damage a Carillo rod, you can send it back and they will fix it for cheap.


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Re: Which Rods to Buy?
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2007, 08:50:09 pm »
Sorry to thread jack but on another subject... Hey Edgar didn't you have super cool pegs and a high pro shock on that thing too? Oh and the sweet jumps :thumb:

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Re: Which Rods to Buy?
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2007, 05:05:45 am »
Liar!  We all know that there was an SV1000 motor in that thing, and that it made more like 150 horses....
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Re: Which Rods to Buy?
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2007, 10:14:05 am »
Hey grasshopper what else are you doing to the motor? if you will be under 90 hp the A beam Carillos should be ok, though the H beam rods are supposed to essentiallly indestructible, I have seen a few to many pics of falicon rods broken to ever be put into one of my motors. But anyway, run the A beams if your under 90, and run the H beams if your over 90 or if you have an extra 100 bucks laying around and want some piece of mind.
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Re: Which Rods to Buy?
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2007, 11:57:52 pm »
I'm just doing the bottom end for now. I don't have money to do the heads rite now. Getting the crank balanced and good rods is money well spent so I'll spend it on that for now. I have an extra set of heads so later down the road I'll send them out. I'm for sure going with H beams from carrillo and the supercrank set up from falicon with the Chryo (SP?) treatment. It will be under 90. I want it mildly tuned for how many track days I'm doing this summer anyway. Mid 80s on pump gas would be nice. We'll see.

Thanks for the help guys

Nick
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Re: Which Rods to Buy?
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2007, 09:59:24 pm »
all that stuff is to damn expensive. Use stock 'busa rod. they are stronger than stock and only like $40. I have put them in many of the SV motors that I have built and stole the idea from Mark Junge at Vesrah.
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Re: Which Rods to Buy?
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2007, 02:08:44 am »
Nick,

I got 95 hp out of an SV that ran a complete CCS mid-west season. Here are the components I used:

41 mm Flatslide Keihin's
Lightened flywheel
Carrillo H beam rods
1 mm over JE pistons, custom made. Higher compression
Ported Heads <<<--- Very important to get a good engine builder to do the heads. They are worth a lot in hp!
Custom Valve Springs
Ti Valve keepers
Megacycle Stage 3 cams
Undercut magnafluxed tranny



My buddy now owns the bike and she still runs strong.




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Re: Which Rods to Buy?
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2007, 11:39:14 pm »
all that stuff is to damn expensive. Use stock 'busa rod. they are stronger than stock and only like $40. I have put them in many of the SV motors that I have built and stole the idea from Mark Junge at Vesrah.

Busa rods are stronger yes, but weigh more than the stock SV rods. Why are they better?

When you did this mod Jason did you send the whole assembly (Crank, rods, pistons, rings, wrist pins) out to get balanced?

Is it true you have to modify the deck height using busa rods?

Please elaborate or send me an email. I'd appreciate your input.

With much respect.

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