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Winning the race or riding well?

Started by PaulV, December 15, 2006, 09:39:16 PM

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Which is better, winning or riding to the limit of bike and ability with out crashing?

Winning?
Riding your best?

PaulV

#12
Hey Scott,

dude, you really should think about raising your bar a little higher.... :cheers:

Dano,

I was there for the 05 R6 comeback 8)


Not only was it good for you, it was a blast to watch!

Same with you and Kevi, PaulJ, very exciting stuff.

No real agenda with this poll, just interesting to me.

PaulV

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dylanfan53

Winning.  But I won't ride over my head to do it.  It wouldn't matter anyway since, as an expert, a good weekend for me is to get wood.  I know I've done my best to do it.  With others out there who are better talented, better equipped and in better physical shape I have to accept that I won't win in a full grid dry race.  I'm glad I won as an amateur though.  It was a great feeling.

For a competitive person, not winning must contribute to good riders quitting after a few years.
Don Cook
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PolishPete

#14
Quote from: PaulV on December 17, 2006, 12:02:55 PM
Hey Scott,

dude, you really should think about raising your bar a little higher.... :cheers:

Dano,

I was there for the 05 R6 comeback 8)


Not only was it good for you, it was a blast to watch!

Same with you and Kevi, PaulJ, very exciting stuff.

No real agenda with this poll, just interesting to me.

PaulV



If I had a picture like this (which isn't currently possible, because after crashing a wheelie once I haven't done one since), it would for sure be 8' X 8' covering a wall in my house.  That picture is sweet!!

dabirk23

The most satisfying race I ever ran was one that I finished second in.  It was the best I'd ever ridden.  I won races too, but because I didn't have to ride as well to win them, it didn't bring me near the satisfaction.  To ride your best and win, well that would be just gravy.

Each racer has their own experiences to draw from, so as long as everyone is having fun, that's all that matters.
:cheers:
Dave

Without a sense of humor one is destined to be miserable

Super_KC124

There's nothing better than a good close battle with someone. Testing your racecraft against theirs. Doesn't matter what position it is.


Oh yeh. Sack up Ben. White plates. Where winning means something. :kicknuts: :biggrin:

Jack_Brock

Kevin speaks the truth...  the battle is where it is at, regardless of position.  We all spend a lot of money doing this, so hopefully it is to have some fun.  For me, I don't have to win to have fun.  A good race is always a blast, and the funnest race I had this year I didn't win(you still suck though, Wu).  Of course, I'm really starting to enjoy the wins I had against Probst now that I know how important the whole win thing is to him:)-HA! Just kidding.  Ben, seriously, keep with your goals, but be sure to still enjoy it along the way.

Quote from: KC_124 on December 17, 2006, 11:58:43 PM
There's nothing better than a good close battle with someone. Testing your racecraft against theirs. Doesn't matter what position it is.


Oh yeh. Sack up Ben. White plates. Where winning means something. :kicknuts: :biggrin:
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HAWK

My last ULWSB race at Blackhawk was t best of both.  I got a  great launch and ran wellthe whole race but the real fun and excitement came when a new guy (learning curves shirt riding a KTM) came around me  in lap 4. Now it wasn't just riding away for a win it was a race, we traded places a few times and then we caught a slower rider entering the carousel on the white flag lap and I backed off. Well Mr KTM took us both on the outside and I took the the duc into the bustop and the real race was on, I managed to catch him at the kink and even though he had power on me I had enough drive out of 7 to real him  in at the line by 18 inches. It was was my first win but it was a race I will never forget. 

I voted for win but hey it's all about fun and for 15 minutes at a time the whole world goes away and nothing matters but you, machine, track and FUN! If you're on this board it's all about fun, don't ever let that get away, that's when you leave and that's the only time you lose .
Paul Onley
CCS Midwest EX #413

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Quote from: PJ on December 16, 2006, 07:58:25 PM
+1.

Lord knows I've been the first loser to Mr. Ed Key more than a few times. Nothing to be ashamed of. But man, it truly sucks. Winning is addictive. Once you have a taste of it, nothing else compares.

That said, a couple of my most fun races this season were with Kevin Van Engen in LWSS when we were pushing each other hard the whole race for second or third place (and Ed was long gone). Battling a guy for the whole race and beating him to the line, for whatever position, feels great. It's like a race within a race. But there's still just one true winner...

I am with PJ
Guy Bartz
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Jeff

I've only won 1 race in the 300-400 that I've run.  It was a great feeling and one I'd like to have gotten used to, but I simply did not have the complete package (physically, mentally, financially, mechanically) to be that number 1 guy.  Thus I had to settle for beating myself, which is what racing was all about for me.

When I would beat my times, or have a break-through, that was a WIN for me.

Having close competition with people you trust and enjoy, is also a WIN for me.

I guess they're excuses since I couldn't win consistently, but I gave it all I had and am extremely proud of what I've accomplished over the years.
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backMARKr

Having ridden for 20 years on the street before going to the track, I think I saw (see...seesaw?) racing as the natural progression. I have always seen riding like golf (not that I play golf); play the course and yourself and improve/get better. "Better" always seems to equate to smoother and smoother consequently translated into faster.

Luckily, the people who I blame for my new racing addiction (Mitch, Lonny, Matt, and now Kyle) have preached this philosophy since day one. Since I started racing, though, I find the more I am on the track the more competitive I have become. I am not sure whether getting on the podium is the main goal as much as picking that one guy who seems to be at your level and slicing and dicing with him the whole race ( Buell #991, you made Gingerman A LOT of fun for me in October!).

So ultimately, I voted for riding my best which is probably because I haven't gotten on the box yet. I am curious to see if I ever get there and if my attitude will change.

Have a Merry Christmas everyone and I look forward to seeing everyone in 2007! :thumb:

Mark
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zx10ragentorange

winning a race cause in order for me to win one I would have to ride very well...lol

Jeff

Quote from: zx10rblack51 on December 18, 2006, 11:45:50 AM
winning a race cause in order for me to win one I would have to ride very well...lol

Not really...  The one win I had was on some very bad lap times...  They just happened to be marginally better than everyone else.
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