Is this true? (Hayden injured)

[RCR_531]

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=27668

[Team_Serpent]

Since this tangent is going nowhere I don't see any reason to continue it, if this explanation doesn't explain my views then I don't know what will. It's sad that some can't at least be open to other people's views, no matter how contridictory to their own. Good luck with that!

You're right - it's going no where and as you can see there is no one here that agrees with you.  I'm always open to other people's point of view - it's funny though because it seems like you're not.  I can tell from your other posts and the things you talk about / give examples of, that you must have a hard time getting through life - so negative.  I respect the fact that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and you have the right to yours - sorry we don't see eye to eye.

[StumpysWife]

The shoulder thing is crazy, but obviously he didn't want it to be the story if and when he won.  I'm still so happy for him--and his family.

And, about the flag.  Is there video of him setting it on the ground?  Did he lean it up against the bike and it fell?  I'm not offering excuses, but, really, the photo doesn't necessarily tell the story.  I'm trying to imagine him throwing it to the ground or leaning over to set it there and it seems weird. 

Heather

[JBraun]

No, he just threw it on the ground. It was pretty appalling actually, and I'm a Nicky Hayden guy.
I was really dissapointed, he should know better....

[russ1962]

Lucky me, I was in Sicily on the day of the final race.  I was very fortunate to see the pre-race discussions, and the race itself, and the post race talk shows.  There was quite a buzz in the community about it all. 

Superbike racing in Italy is about as important to the culture as football or baseball is to Americans.  It's amazing to see stores with Nicky clothing that is so cool, or Rossi stuff of all shapes and sorts.   Very cool world...  hmmm, maybe I'll live there.

I did watch the post race behavior of Nicky, live, and was ashamed of what he did with the flag.  Fact is, he was handed the flag, and he treated it like it was a rag, and dropped it on the track and left it there.  No sugar coating this one.  I am proud of his performance, and he's such a class act, but this one was a major mistake in my eyes.

Russ

[Team_Serpent]

I did watch the post race behavior of Nicky, live, and was ashamed of what he did with the flag.  Fact is, he was handed the flag, and he treated it like it was a rag, and dropped it on the track and left it there.  No sugar coating this one.  I am proud of his performance, and he's such a class act, but this one was a major mistake in my eyes.

Russ

Well this is very disappointing news.  I do believe the flag should receive the utmost respect and care. 

But just so Mike knows  this doesn't change my view of the championship and how it was won 

[russ1962]

Well this is very disappointing news.  I do believe the flag should receive the utmost respect and care. 

But just so Mike knows  this doesn't change my view of the championship and how it was won 

No question whatsoever...!  Nicky won, simple.  Rossi didn't, simple. 

This has been a funny discussion to watch.  It's fun to watch someone being upset about the outcome, and they act like it isn't so. 

The end of the game, the score shows the winner.  Pretty easy to tell who it was.  This is one of those discussions where the 1985 Bears are compared to the 1972 Dolphins, or Ali is compared to Holmes...  sit around a bar and drink beer and talk about that.  Arguing like there is some analytical capability to disprove Nicky isn't worthy of this is silly.  He won it, and it's done.

WTF!   

Nicky won the 2006 season, and it's awesome.  Even more awesome to see it won by an AMERICAN!  And no, that doesn't mean I'm anti-everyone else, it just means I'm proud it was one of us.   And a cool kid on top of it all.  Nice to see.

[jryer]

Mongo,

So then you also believe that I would have been the deserving champion of up to 12 championships in 2003 as I described and I made the wrong decision by stepping back and letting the BETTER riders have them? All I did was follow the rules of the game and my consistency showed thru, but there's no way I deserved to be the champion in all those classes, I was sorry ass slow. That was the very reasoning behind CCS changing the rules to more heavily reward those who win and penalize those who don't.

My issue isn't specifically with Nicky, it's with his type, time for another example. I work with people who are in positions of great power within a $100 million dollar a year company, applying the thinking you guys seem to have would mean that those people in those positions are the best for them? Yet things like what your last name is, who's ass your head is up, how deep your throat is, and who's back your willing to stab have far more to do with success than anything from what I have seen in the last 18 years of employment with them. The people in positions of power are there because they did the things required to get there, no matter how incorrect. Again, my issue is with the situations he's been in which resulted in him getting championships, not really him as a person so much (other than that blattent flag disrespect! ). I just don't look at him as a true champion, hell the guy couldn't even hold his head up with pride and look at the camera during the interviews after he won  ? I've never seen any other MotoGP champion do that.

I've never met Nicky personally, but what I did see this year was a young man with something many are seriously lacking. HUMILITY and GRATEFULNESS. So when you say he hung his head low, I believe you mis-interpreted the true reason for his body language at that point. I know a lot of people aren't comfortable when it comes to faith and beliefs, but the man went on record during that interview to thank God, and if I'm reading the Hayden family correctly I would say he's making reference to Christ, and that my friend is the real reason why you saw Nicky nearly at tears several times during interviews throughout the season, not just because of joy or fustrations, but because there's something deeper in that young man that is difficult to explain in forums like this. Dropping the flag is a simple matter of safety as far as I'm concerned. Anything getting caught up in the rear sprocket is just bad, period.
Nobody is perfect, but he did win the championship, and no amount of small talk on this forum is ever gonna take it away from Nicky.