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Started by CCS, September 13, 2006, 11:08:51 AM

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Would you be willing to race on Memorial Day (Monday and Tuesday) to get a better date at Road America?

Yes
No

Racingxtc7


GSXR RACER MIKE

Personally I wish the RA event was later in the season like when we use to have 2 events every season, I wish we would have kept the 2nd event date instead. It kinda sucks how it currently is where the track doesn't get raced on like it should be due to weather all too often ruining it for us.

I understand there is the cost savings of using weekdays, and the preference by the track and those involved to only have to set-up the safety stuff (hay bales and air fence) just once instead of twice, but I also agree that there will probably be less overall turnout. I would most likely attend the Monday - Tuesday event if that's how it ended up, but I still would prefer the event to be in the later 1/2 or 1/3 of the season.
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jer271

Iam in, Jeff stop crying out all the what ifs.  Although I see all your points jeff,  and they areall very good ones, I would love to race that track in good weather again.

its not the fresh start to a season so it could be alot better than u think

Fatkid 271

CCS

Some background info. We, CCS are low-man on the date totem pole for Rd Am, (even with 20 years in), the Porsche Club has had Memorial Day for 30+ years I've been told....Weekdays means CCS only-no practice day beforehand....We have asked for a later weekend, but it depends on their "spectator" event schedule, later in the year also means lower turnout (trend is 700+ entries early in the season down to just over 600 entries by August and September-Barber only saw 900 entries compared to the Rd Am 1100) and possibly higher track rent which equals higher entry fees.

We know the pole is scientifically inaccurate, but we have to have something to go on...and yes, staff is even harder to get than racers.

Thanks to everyone who voted so far, we will let this run over the weekend to see if the 4 to 1 trend continues.
Kevin Elliott
Director of Operations-CCS/ASRA
Fort Worth, TX
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N8Kern

 um yeah well uh I think I will say yes, cause Paul James did!  That dude is smart! lol


N8!

Thingy

I think the fact that you would have to take Tuesday off is a moot point because we have to take friday off on the existing date.  Personally, I don't go to Road A anymore because of the existing date.  So, I would vote yes.  One thing that might push me away is if we had to cram three days of races into two.  Otherwise, I am in.  Kevin, thanks for acknowledging a tough issue and looking for resolution.
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HAWK

Without seeing a weekend schedule it sounds like there won't be much practice time so, while the date sounds warmer and better for most, this noob would have to pass as I don't think it would be safe for me to race RA with 7 or 8 laps experience on the track.
Paul Onley
CCS Midwest EX #413

PJ

Quote from: N8Kern on September 14, 2006, 04:36:18 PM
um yeah well uh I think I will say yes, cause Paul James did!  That dude is smart! lol


N8!

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GSXR RACER MIKE

Quote from: CCS on September 14, 2006, 12:16:08 PM
Some background info. We, CCS are low-man on the date totem pole for Rd Am, (even with 20 years in), the Porsche Club has had Memorial Day for 30+ years I've been told....Weekdays means CCS only-no practice day beforehand....We have asked for a later weekend, but it depends on their "spectator" event schedule, later in the year also means lower turnout (trend is 700+ entries early in the season down to just over 600 entries by August and September-Barber only saw 900 entries compared to the Rd Am 1100) and possibly higher track rent which equals higher entry fees.

Thanks for the info Kevin, I always wondered why we kept the bad weather date? I want to point out a couple issues I thought of concerning this event though.

Like others have pointed out, the event being condensed into 2 days may be an issue for some. I would also assume this means it would then be a traditional event and not a Twin Sprint/ASRA event? Is that really economically viable and do the ASRA racers really want to give up RA from their schedule? And if it was to be a Twin Sprint/ASRA event I assume it would mean dropping the GT races and the Team Challenge to save time, but that would also mean there would probably be only 1 longer or 2 short practices for everyone before racing at the fastest track we race at in the Midwest? I see potential safety issues with that scenerio for many that need the practice time in order to get a rythem before going racing. If we can't fit in a Twin Sprint schedule I can only imagine what the costs would be to the racers per class for a traditional event at that time, I can't see large quantities of racers wanting to pay the same amount of money to get less track time than they normally would at the spring event? (as compared to a Twin Sprint event where everyone gets twice the track time for about the same money that they would if this was held as a traditional event) I wonder if running the event later in the season with less turnout, but as a 3 day Twin Sprint/ASRA schedule like normal, would actually work out to be about the same financally, but wouldn't be a mad crazy compressed schedule like this potential June event would most likely turn out to be? I'm afraid less practice will result in more red flags, which would be insult to injury in this case since we would already be on a really tight schedule. Those are my concerns as of now.

Mike
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Mike Williams - 2 GSXR 750's
Former MW Region Expert #58
Racing exclusively with CCS since '96
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Addicted2Danger

I think the later date would be better.  Even with all the other concerns brought up by everyone, I still think it would be better than racing in April in WI.  I do hope that we would not have to contend with a compressed schedule.  As for the issue of practice time ahead of the races.......I have a tough time making it a day ahead of time most weekends just to practice, so this might level the playing field a little more.

MY $.02

Bigsexy

Would it still be a twin sprint
Rob

Walt221

Don't get me wrong, I would love a warmer Road America date. However, I happen to like the fact that Summit Point is over that same weekend (Sat, Sun, Mon). It would be a shame to give up that weekend. There is always a lot of fans and bikes. It's also so close to D.C. and enjoying the Nation's capital festivities on Memorial Day is very cool!