Should CCS grid by points?

[ahastings]

We'll see what is done by CCS if anything.  I didn't submit a rule.  I don't know if anyone did. 

I submitted a proposal to grid by points or pre-entered riders by points as I have for the last 2 years now along with some other proposals.

[Super Dave]

Nice job!   

From me at least.

[Mongo]

Our problem with going back to the good old days is back in the day the expenses were miniscule compared to now.  We can't raise the fees enough to remove classes. 

All of the orgs can give you more track time and do things differently - but you'll have to pay for it.  The bills will actually go up if we have less people through the gate.

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

All of the orgs can give you more track time and do things differently - but you'll have to pay for it.  The bills will actually go up if we have less people through the gate.

+1 If it gets close to how much it costs to run cars, I'll go back to racing cars.

[MJFRacing]

While I would love to see a program rather than a slew of races like we have now...

Qualifying for every race is impractical for the current system of so many differeent classes.

Grid pre entered riders by points, then post entered riders by order of entry.  +1

+ 1.   POINTS!

[jryer]

Exactly.  They don't.  And there's a reason for that.  For club racing, it's really impracticle, in my opinion.  And is it necessary?  It's club racing.  Maybe for a club national championship like ASRA or WERA National Challenge, I think it's necessary for making some of that club racing part of a bigger show...and, obviously, the AMA needs timed everything because it is the "big show", and the times are used.  Example is Mid-Ohio where Supersport was gridded by Friday practice times...the only time the Supersport bikes were on track before the Sunday race.

We'll see what is done by CCS if anything.  I didn't submit a rule.  I don't know if anyone did. 

It would still be nice to have at least of few select races where grid is determined by lap times. At least those that want a fair shot at grid position could have a go at it. Maybe it doesn't have to be every race but at least a few would be cool. Points still leaves anybody who can only afford a few races a year an unfair advantage at the back of the grid.

[Super Dave]

That's why I do Unlimited Grand Prix and ASRA and AMA events.  Sorry, Mongo, I haven't done a WERA race since 1991, I think.  Just hasn't been one close in a long time...

[weggieman]

The wonderful world of high speed computers and we can't change entry input? Maybe a little testing could be done to see if it's possible? Create a race weekend for testing purposes and try it.

I'm sure two people on decent lap tops could grid by points without a problem. Maybe cut entry time a little earlier so there's more time to get it done? Saturday mornings would be the only hectic time. Only Saturdays races need to be done. During the race day Saturday one person could start Sundays entries then all there is to do Sunday is whoever shows up that day which  is normally not  a lot.

[Sig]

I voted for gridding by points on pre-entry. I hate the fact that right now the rich kid can pre-reg for the whole season and get pole the entire year. 

This is a very interesting debate and this year was my first year racing and this is my first post on this board......is this really being considered in the smallest bit or are we just pipe dreaming?

[Court Jester]

my first season i only ran a few race weekends and i wanted to be in the back. this year i ran one race (cause i got bugged up pretty ugly in a wreck that weekend) but i got stuck in the back because i didn't get reg. early and wasn't sure i would make it. i gridded up on the inside of the last row and shot from there up to third by turn one. it's fun as hell to have to fight to get to the front, but i have to admit, passing 12 or 14 people because you've got your chest on the wind screen and your chin as low as you can stretch your neck isn't the safest way for anybody on the track.
it couldn't be that damn hard to pick out the names on race day and line them up by points. it would sure be safer to not have a slew of fast guys gritting their teeth in the back row.

[kylbie]

whats up jester, hows life been treatin ya man?

[Court Jester]

so far so good. i'm alive. beats the alternative.
do i know you? i have a hell of a time with names.