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Should CCS grid by points?

Started by ahastings, August 23, 2006, 06:19:39 PM

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What do you think about how CCS should grid ?

by order of entry -current system
13 (16.5%)
by points
36 (45.6%)
by points for preentered riders like Daytona
30 (38%)

Total Members Voted: 74

roadracer162

#72
It doesn't matter, because they are gonna run their organization they want to anyway. I am just glad I get a place to ride, race and enjoy my hobby afterall this is club-racing.

Mark
Mark Tenn
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Gixxerblade

Quote from: roadracer162 on October 10, 2006, 09:50:36 AM
It doesn't matter, because they are gonna run their organization they want to anyway. I am just glad I get a place to ride, race and enjoy my hobby afterall this is club-racing.

Mark
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Super Dave

Well, they would like to have more riders racing.  And I have personally gotten two rules changed.  If one can give them valid reasons that might help, they do appreciate it.
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roadracer162

#76
Quote from: Super Dave on October 10, 2006, 04:52:08 PM
Well, they would like to have more riders racing.  And I have personally gotten two rules changed.  If one can give them valid reasons that might help, they do appreciate it.
Quote from: Super Dave on October 10, 2006, 04:52:08 PM
Well, they would like to have more riders racing.  And I have personally gotten two rules changed.  If one can give them valid reasons that might help, they do appreciate it.

Dave,

I did try that route last year. I do agree with all the points in your statement. I am just speculating but I would guess that your input (being more known) carries more input than me (a literal nobody to this community).

I cited having more of a mix in the LW classes then I started thinking that the mix is coming in the form of the Ducati. Then more people are more likely to run a Ducati rather than a FZR or even an F2.

It will be LW F40 and Thunderbike for me and my old bike unless I go ahead and run in GTU. Ok go ahead start laughing.

Mark
Mark Tenn
CCS Ex #22
Mark Tenn Motorsports, Michelin tire guy in Florida.

jryer

Quote from: Super Dave on October 10, 2006, 08:16:34 AM
About 80% believe that gridding by points is valuable.

There was only 3 choices to choose from and 2 of them
had points included in the answer. Is that really an equitable balance
among answers? It would of been a lot more balanced and appealing
if "lap times during practice" was included.

imafrogg420

i dont see any problem with griding by point with preenterying and then just do order of entry for any oen who doesnt preenter. all though running to the bike would be fun its way to dangerous and is an accident waiting to happen but i like your way of thinking!
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Court Jester

They give out the transponders. It would be a little work but I think they should grid by your fastest practice times.
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Super Dave

Problems occur when a rider has two or more bikes.  There's no way to effectively regulate a time on one bike being different than a riders other bike. 
Super Dave

Court Jester

oh, i always thought about why they didn't do it that way.

i'd say by points then. the ones with the most points should be up front i would think then. stands to reason anyway.
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tzracer

Quote from: Court Jester on October 18, 2006, 01:17:51 PM
They give out the transponders. It would be a little work but I think they should grid by your fastest practice times.

This has the potential to turn practice into a race. The danger level would go way up. In practice I don't make passes I would make
in a race. People would start to do crazy stuff to get a better starting spot.
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jryer

Quote from: tzracer on October 20, 2006, 10:31:21 AM
This has the potential to turn practice into a race. The danger level would go way up. In practice I don't make passes I would make
in a race. People would start to do crazy stuff to get a better starting spot.

I keep hearing how much more dangerous lap times during practice is, but CCS decision making based purely on speculation would be bad methodology. WERA and others use this method often without it being more dangerous. Just for those that don't believe it, here it is straight from WERA's rule book Chapter 8 Sub 3:

WERA will have the scoring system RUNNING DURING PRACTICE and WILL PRINT LAP TIMES to allow riders to verify their transponder is working. WERA will have transponders for sale as well as for rent. Rental fees will be $60 for the event, any transponder not returned to WERA at the event will result in a $100 fine

There it is folks in black and white. And yes I WOULD be willing to pay $60 per weekend to make this happen.