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Engine Smoke at the start of the AMA SS Race

Started by extrakt0r, August 20, 2006, 10:14:24 PM

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afeuer

Look at qualifying times from last weekend @ VIR. SS pole was less than a half second off FX. The whole idea with supersport is that the bikes are supposed to be relatively stock, yet they lap on pace with bikes that have trick swingarms, forks, brakes, triples, 16.5 mag wheels, slicks and pissed off motors? I must be missing something.



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mdr14

you guys are forgetting that the AMA/ factories are one in the same...
Matt Drucker
MD Racing
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r1owner

Quote from: mdr14 on August 22, 2006, 08:44:30 PMI will say this... there are some cheat'n mo fo's on the regional level.

LOL!  Classic!

extrakt0r

Hey now, before we get to much farther off topic...LOL...

Is the general concessus as to why Rodger had all that smoke was due to a new motor w/o seated rings and he was getting blow by?

TIA!!!

LOL :)
Mike Simone
CCS/ASRA Great Plains EX #619
www.teamsimoneracing.com

2005 CCS AM Unlimited GP Champion
2005 CCS AM Unlimited SuperBike Champion
2005 CCS AM Unlimited SuperSport Champion

mdr14

Mike, Based On my understanding, that was a fresh motor for the race, and I am sure the rings had not fully seated, that probably coupled with running a light weight oil.

I do not recall seeing any obvious smoking on subsequent laps
Matt Drucker
MD Racing
www.mdracingstp.com

Super Dave

Quote from: JBraun on August 23, 2006, 09:55:10 AM
It's the AMA's job to make the rules, and the factories should have to follow them.

I'm not naive, I realize the factories hold all the cards. But it won't stop me from complaining...

Look at qualifying times from last weekend @ VIR. SS pole was less than a half second off FX. The whole idea with supersport is that the bikes are supposed to be relatively stock, yet they lap on pace with bikes that have trick swingarms, forks, brakes, triples, 16.5 mag wheels, slicks and pissed off motors? I must be missing something.

Missing something?  Yeah, Supersport times have been faster than FX times quite regularly.  It's a recent thing that FX has gone faster than Supersport.  16.5 wheels are light, but the tires are heavy.  HP doesn't mean everything.

As for the manufacturer teams...

They do make a great investment into the whole program.  You can't leave them out.  But if things were tweaked, I always felt that the whole racing program would be elevated for all teams...riders, mechanics, tire dudes, etc.
Super Dave

r1owner

Did anyone else notice when Barrick went to pick up Herin that he left a pretty good sized puddle of water from the A/C condensor of the car on the track?

Granted, it was pretty far off the racing line....

extrakt0r

Quote from: r1owner on August 24, 2006, 12:17:55 AM
Did anyone else notice when Barrick went to pick up Herin that he left a pretty good sized puddle of water from the A/C condensor of the car on the track?

Granted, it was pretty far off the racing line....

Yeah, saw that...

But what I loved was how they "took their time" getting back to the pits and ready to go again so the factory rider had enuf time to get his bike fixed....

Mike Simone
CCS/ASRA Great Plains EX #619
www.teamsimoneracing.com

2005 CCS AM Unlimited GP Champion
2005 CCS AM Unlimited SuperBike Champion
2005 CCS AM Unlimited SuperSport Champion

Super Dave

It's not just for the factory riders.  It's for the riders.  I've seen it before for private riders in the past.
Super Dave

Cornerman

 I was there on turn 4 working the corner. It amazes me how much time they take sometimes. I enjoyed the event very much. I recall the bike smoking and instead of pulling him off for a check I guess they thought of the check he would get at the end of the race. You never can tell on either end what will or could happen. I also saw Mladin's S.Bike smoke as he went through my turn too during practice. It could have been rings. After awhile the smoking stopped.
It seems the cards are stacked way to much against privateers. Lap times showed. Glad to see those ASRA stickers on some bikes though :thumb: