TrackAddix GP Team Challenge Poll

[tstruyk]

if its helpful here's what we do.

rotate tire costs and entry fee's
you wreck it you fix it! (tuck a front or highside it to the moon...your on your own)
someone wrecks you... we all fix it (someone chops your front or t-bones you, we all chip in)
you'll find those that are on a bike thats not theirs, tend to leave more margin for error.

its definately one of the most fun races I have ever done!  Its been VERY frustrating not having run it yet (mechanical at road america, cancelled at MAM).  Looking fw to Topeka!!!

[extrakt0r]

Tim,

I see your points, but I am sure there are quite a few other racers like me that will never let anyone else ride their bike, or want to ride anyone else's bike...

I think it would be awesome to remove TC and/or make it shorter/combine classes and move the GT Races to Sat...

[tstruyk]

yeah I guess its not for everyone... I personally dont have a problem with pretty much anyone riding my bike, sometimes I just assume everyone feels the way I do.  I guess its understandable that maybe some (or most) dont.

I'd like to see it stay. 

Maybe if more people (like mike) would post up why they DONT ride the team challenge TA could solve some issues, or resolve a schedule solution more accurately.

Is it a "rather not use my bike" reason?
Is it a "rather not race someone elses bike" issue?
Is it "I've never done it and really dont know what to expect"?
Maybe its the additional cost?
Or maybe its "I'm probably gonna be exhausted after practice all day"

The one hour sounds Ok, but the 2 hour gives 3 guys plenty of time on the track... like I said, I'd like to see it stay... but whatever is best for the series works for me.

tim

[extrakt0r]

Tim,

Good idea...

But here is something else to consider...

If we removed the single pratice session after lunch, and moved TC to begin at 1:00 we could run a 2 Hour TC...That would end around 3:00...

From there, we could run the 3 GT Races Sat after Team Challenge, and have a cold track by 5:00...

Then on Sunday with the loss of the 3 GT Races, we could then add one additional pratice for Sunday morning, then enter normal Sprint Races...

This would still give us the same amount of pratice sessions, and we could still keep TC in place for those who want to run it...

Feeback? 

[extrakt0r]

How about this...

Slighly modified MAM Schedule...

Saturday

8:00 Group 1 Pratice
8:20 Group 2 Pratice
8:40 Group 3 Pratice
9:00 Group 1
9:20 Group 2
9:40 Group 3
10:00 Group 1
10:20 Group 2
10:40 Group 3
11:00 Group 1
11:20 Group 2
11:40 Group 3
12:00 - Lunch/ TC Setup
1:00 2 Hour Team Challenge
3:15 - Riders Meeting
3:30 - GTU
4:00 - GTL
4:30 - GTO

Sunday
8:00 Group 1 Pratice
8:20 Group 2 Pratice
8:40 Group 3 Pratice
9:00 Group 1
9:20 Group 2
9:40 Group 3
10:00 EX UNL GP Qualify
10:30 Riders Meeting
Sprint Races Start at 11:00
1. MW SS AM
2. MW SS EX
3. LW SS
4. HW SS
5. UNL SS
6. F40/LW F40
Lunch - 1 Hour
7. Thunderbike
8. UNL GP AM/EX
9. LW SB
10. MW SB
11. LW GP
12. HW SB
13. UNL CB
14. MWGP

[tstruyk]

that makes alot of sense.  I never did understand the extra practice after lunch... there is kind of a natural break to set up for the TC at lunch (move canopies, stands, swap tires etc...) and I definately prefer 2 sessions of practice in the AM before racing, takes a session just to get the suspension warmed up and the body loose (at least for me).  and for those that skip the sat practice and TC/GT's they still get a little dial in time on sunday.

I like it.

The only negative I see is that the TC MUST run on time, as must the GT's... but no more so than the GT's and sprints had to on Sunday at the first GP race... I dont see any problems with that schedule at all 

[LMsports]

I really like Mike's proposed schedule. Too bad it isn't a choice on the poll. It gets my vote.

[Jeff]

I really like Mike's proposed schedule. Too bad it isn't a choice on the poll. It gets my vote.

+1

[TrackAddix]

Some quick insight into that after lunch practice session.  Here are our thoughts as to why we scheduled it that way.  First, you have just eaten and have been sitting around for an hour or more depending on what practice group you run in.  Having a round of practice after lunch gives you a chance to loosen up and get back in the groove before going out to race.  Our second thought was that many people swap tires during the lunch break.  Having a practice session after lunch gives riders a chance to scrub in new tires before going racing.  Hope this sheds some light on why some things are the way they are.

Looking forward to seeing you all at MAM in July.  I am hoping to make it to Topeka as well, but it all depends on when the baby decides to join us.  Kim is about to pop!
-Dean

[Burt Munro]

  I am hoping to make it to Topeka as well, but it all depends on when the baby decides to join us.  Kim is about to pop!
-Dean

Don't forget to check the air pressure closely.... 30 in the front and 22 in the rear is what you're looking for!

[tstruyk]

hey Dean!

I understand where you are coming from, my first few TC events with ASRA(FUSA) where hectic.  I thought "how am I supposed to swap tires, set up pit, and eat during lunch... "  and I can tell you most times lunch was skipped as practice sessions ran over.  As for a scrub in...A. its a long race, and B. if you cant have em ready to rock and roll (or damn near) after the siting lap you got bigger problems IMO.

I think people will adapt, the tough part may be more about finding time between the TC and GT's to get tires changed... but if you are running a ton of races its a common problem, most people that are serious about multiple classes have an extra set of rims.


thanks for the hard work on this AND for taking time to recieve input and let this be a work in progress!

Tim

[silent]

I also like Mikes idea, but since it wasn't a choice, I opted for decreasing the TC to 1 hour.  But, that is my 0.02