What is the purpose of a Twin Sprint weekend?

[ahastings]

I was told that on a twin sprint weekend contingencies are only paid for the second race. With the increased entry fees involved such as at Barber, how is it beneficial to us the racers? Seems like the only purpose is to make CCS more money.

[Super Dave]

I think that is usually true of manufacturer contingency (Yamaha, Suzuki, etc.), but not of tire contingency, etc.  Might want to contact CCS or the contingency company directly. 

[Sobottka]

still only one purse race per weekend >:( >:( >:(

[Jeff]

purpose? 

Increased entries to offset track costs. - benefit CCS
Increased racing opportunities - benefit racers
Increased available points - benefit racers

[spyderchick]

I was told that on a twin sprint weekend contingencies are only paid for the second race. With the increased entry fees involved such as at Barber, how is it beneficial to us the racers? Seems like the only purpose is to make CCS more money.

It might be important to know that CCS does not set up the contigency, the sponsoring companies negotiate these deals.

As Jeff pointed out, CCS benefits from increased entries on twin sprint weekends, but riders benefit from track time and available points.

Remember, this year Kevin Elliott is funding CCS/ASRA out of his own pocket, and he needs to be successful at it for us to have the series survive. It's a business, and I can assure you, he's probably not laughing all the way to the bank. It's a lot of hard work to make this work, and for him it's a start-up year. If CCS makes money, we should all be happy, because that assures the future of the sport.

[Jeff]

Not to mention that entry fees and licensing fees have not increased in the last 3 years (knock on wood)

[cardzilla]

I like the idea.  The #1 cost of racing is travel expense (lodging, gas, etc.) With a twin sprint you essentially cut those costs in half.  As for contingency, I'm pretty sure the tire, brake, bodywork, etc. contingencies pay for both days as separate events... of course that's just speculation on how it SHOULD be.  Obviously with the amount of OEM contingency they only pay once per weekend (just think, it gives you more shots at a win).

[CCS]

Most contingency sponsors sign up for both events (we report them as separate races). Manufactuer contingency pays more at fewer events so they choose Sunday only.

We try to only run twin sprints at tracks where the event cost is probhibitive, so we try to get our, (and your), moneys worth while we are there. Road America and Barber both cost more than $13,000 per day and we are extremely hard pressed just to break even. (Road America has lost money for 3 years running, Barber lost money big last year when we tried the regular format, hence the Twin Sprint this year.)

Yes, we know a better date at Road America would help us, but until Road America gives us a better date or stops selling spectator tickets, it is what it is.

Thanks to everyone for their support of CCS Racing.

[ahastings]

Thanks for the info. I was told wrong initially about all contingencies being paid for only one day. It is just the OEM's that do that. The increased entry fees are tough to swallow, I think it will cause people to just enter less classes. At $75/$50 per class pre-entry if you run only 5 classes X 2 you are talking over $500 in entry fees alone.

[Super Dave]

Thanks for the info. I was told wrong initially about all contingencies being paid for only one day. It is just the OEM's that do that. The increased entry fees are tough to swallow, I think it will cause people to just enter less classes. At $75/$50 per class pre-entry if you run only 5 classes X 2 you are talking over $500 in entry fees alone.

Agreed, the costs are hard to swollow.

However, there are racers that are attracted to specific tracks.  At times, there "racing life" will revolve around their finite opportunities to compete at these venues.  Daytona, Barber, VIR, RA, etc...some examples.  It costs to rent them.  Still, even though I don't personally like some of those tracks, others I do, I think it is important to have them on the schedule to CCS, the small business, and to CCS racers, the individuals that need to be attracted to the competition at various events.

[Super Dave]

still only one purse race per weekend >:( >:( >:(

ULGP only pays once per weekend?

[Sobottka]

only one ulgp per weekend @ RA, i think @ HPT too