who was taking pics at blackhawk

[spyderchick]

I cant remember whether there was a crash in 4d that race or not. It was the fourth race after the team challenge, the Speedscreen Unlimited GP.  Black/Maroon 04 R1. Gibson on the back of black MotoGP leathers in metallic red lettering....does that ring a bell? Would great if anyone has pics of it.
Thanks,
Ryan

Hey Ryan, hope youre ok. How did the adjustment work on the back of your legs?

[ccsracer26]

Oh, I am fine, just mad that I had a decent finish coming to me in the GP and blew it on the last lap. The leathers dont even look like I crashed and the new stretch paneling worked great....much more comfortable, thanks! Bike isnt too bad, was just barely good enough to finish the race :)

[BuellGirlie]

anyone get the crash on film at the carousel between AM#888 blue buell and EX#36 yellow suzuki saturday morning?

photogs - please post when you guys have got all (or at least a lot of) the pics up - its frustrating to go to your sites and not see pics.

thx
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[PaulV]

Would that be the crash where the Buell stood it up and took out the SV ending the weekend for the Team Challenge that included the 06 #1 plate holder?

[r1owner]

Would that be the crash where the Buell stood it up and took out the SV ending the weekend for the Team Challenge that included the 06 #1 plate holder?

Ouch! ;) 

I must have went by your pit 8 times this weekend, but never saw anyone around your bike... was looking forward to talking to you Paul.

[unter_kid]

Hey Ben,  Thanks for putting me on the front of the BHF album on your site!!  Great pic man, hope to see more!  Too bad I cranked up my knee so bad, those might be the last pics of me for the season  :-\

[ICUSTRN]

It is my pleasure Mike. ;D I am kinda partial to that shot myself. Sorry to hear you f'd your knee up. I think I have more pics of that will make it online, but I'm not positive.

May as well share the pic he is talking about with everyone:

[BuellGirlie]

Would that be the crash where the Buell stood it up and took out the SV ending the weekend for the Team Challenge that included the 06 #1 plate holder?

a difference of opinion, my friend (though i dont know you).  from everything i've been told, its called a racing incident, although it was during practice.  best wishes on your team's repairs. 

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[unter_kid]

Though I tend to shy away from getting involved in things like this, as a fellow first year amateur I felt the need to post.  Granted it may have been a "racing incident," there is still very little justification for deviating from your line mid-corner.  I'm not saying that there wasn't a good reason, it's just that everyone needs to trust one another, and it's hard to do that if you deviate from your committed line.

When an expert is making a pass, he/she is used to racing with people who are very predictable, and therefor it is up the the amateurs (myself included) to be aware of that fact and ride predictably.  My .02

[spyderchick]

Unless someone steps forward with video or photos of the incident, it's all conjecture. I've been around racing for a long time, and when on a bike, the perspective of racers involved in an incident is not to be trusted.

For example, At Road America, JT took out a number of riders, (there's a photo series of it.) Rhiannon was one of the riders taken out. She was completely sure right after the incident that she was on top of another riders bike into the kitty litter. Upon review of the photos, that was not the case.

Arguing about "who did what" isn't really constructive. It's racing, whether practice or actual race pace. Stuff happens, Some stuff is stupid, some stuff is just heat of the moment.

BuellieGirlie wants some pix so she can make a decision based on evidence, not hearsay. I think that's fair.

[Super Dave]

Though I tend to shy away from getting involved in things like this, as a fellow first year amateur I felt the need to post.  Granted it may have been a "racing incident," there is still very little justification for deviating from your line mid-corner.  I'm not saying that there wasn't a good reason, it's just that everyone needs to trust one another, and it's hard to do that if you deviate from your committed line.

When an expert is making a pass, he/she is used to racing with people who are very predictable, and therefor it is up the the amateurs (myself included) to be aware of that fact and ride predictably.  My .02

Passing is still always a risky option.  Just because someone has "white plates" it doesn't make them the best at passing or making decisions.

Changing line mid corner?  Risk...if you're gonna make a pass around the outside of a a rider that is ahead of you, well...you get what you pay for. 

Sounds like a racing incident to me.  I don't see anyone ass blasting someone from speed under braking where they were never going to make a corner or anything. 

I'm now very curious about all this...

[Super Dave]

If this was a practice incident...

Was the "pass" necessary for a qualifying time? 

Lines vary from rider to rider.  As a rider's speed increases, their line will also change.  And as the power and traction of a machine changes, the line changes.  A 125GP bike has a very different line from a GSXR1000.   A motard bike has a different line compared to a 600.  A mid pack amateur has a different line than the pole sitting expert in Unlimited Grand Prix.  Hey, even an expert rider with a poorly set up CBR600RR has a different line compared to a cheater motor 600 bike.

Try racing when you try to intentionally change your line a bit to mess up your competitors. 

I don't think there's any reason to develop blame unless something was done intentionally.  If that's the case, then it should have been taken care of with the race director on immediately on the race day.