What would YOU do?

[251am]

but can't express my inner feelings!  What a cunundrum! 

furry caveman no have no feeling inner vocabyoulari either   where u got that from

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

furry caveman no have no feeling inner vocabyoulari either   where u got that from

Found a pic of K3 beore he shaved....

[251am]

Found a pic of K3 beore he shaved....

That was on the book tour, right?               

[Mongo]

Now wait a second here!  I'm asshole to anyone who does not agree with me

Lemme guess, another stupid person upset because I called them out on it....  Gee, is this Garry perchance? 

[2fast]

 

[fourandsix]

   Mr. Rosno, are you gonna write me that $600 refund check Jim promised me? Wanna just give it to me at R. America this weekend? I know there's gonna be a line of guys to see Jim  about THEIR refunds over at the Safety First semi...
 

Hey todd you should have come see me at the Safety First trailer , I had a check for you. I didn't see you at all?

[Super Dave]

   Mr. Rosno, are you gonna write me that $600 refund check Jim promised me? Wanna just give it to me at R. America this weekend? I know there's gonna be a line of guys to see Jim  about THEIR refunds over at the Safety First semi...

Hmm...this is all interesting and all, but I think you should have shown up at the Safety First Racing area during the event that you said you were going to show up.  Be done with the victim card.

As for a check from me, right.

As for someone that says one thing and then says something different behind one's back... 

Seems like that's going on here already.

[Super Dave]

From what I've seen, Rosno is equally serious about working for his sponsors.  Cases in point, Rosno has probably been personally responsable for the sale of a hundred Vanson suits, and countless Suomy helmets.  (Suomy helmets have saved my life on numerous occasions, and I started using them because of Dave, so I guess you could say that in a roundabout way, Dave saved my....  Nah, I won't go there. )
So what damage does a racer incur when one of his sponsors starts screwing the very customers who that racer sends to them?  It's a slippery slope.  Hopefully Dave can get clear of this situation without much personal fallout toward himself or Visionsport.  My personal dealings with Rosno have shown him to be an honest guy, and I just can't see Dave intentionally setting any racer up for a screwing.

First, one would have to show cause that there are actually all of these substantial damages that someone seems to be responsible for.  Again, motorcycle racers are pretty responsible for their own errors, but they often play the victim card. 

Honestly, some of us run things out of oil, some overrev, some back shift, sometimes OEM parts break, sometimes fuses blow. 

When are you going to go off on Yates, Pridmore, Meiring, and Spies for promoting HJC?  Afterall, Jeremy had how many concussions because of that?  You could talk to Tony tomorrow or Saturday, I'm betting.

Next, would someone be responsible for NOT telling someone something?

Are there problems with OEM bikes that have no modifications? 

Did you get any suspension ideas from me, Chris?  I'd probably say that you should drop any kind of philosophical ideology that you gleaned from me...might have some 4&6 in there too.


Everyone's a victim anymore.

[Super Dave]

Yeah, poor Dave.  I know just how he feels.  In 2002, my team picked up sponsorship from an outfit called Oz Cycle Salvage.  The guy didn't deliver on what he'd promised us, and the people I'd sent to him all reported getting screwed.  Next, I started hearing from VERY trustworthy sources that the guy was out there badmouthing my teammate and I!  Needless to say we broke ties with that company fast.

So, you think you know how I feel?

I make my recommendations, and people act on them or not.  Certainly, I'm not the most powerful marketing opportunity in the country.  If I am, well, someone get me a job doing that for some substantial money, because it isn't available in motorcycling.

Next, there are individuals that actually go to 4&6 that are really, really happy about what they did, how things were done, and then I can help them build on things from there.  Complainers are the most vocal people, and their voices are ususally made to be heard well above anything that someone that has a good experience has to say, unfortunately.  On that note, it has been an easy time feeling that 4&6 was a reliable place to send individuals for information.  Seldom do I say, you need this and this and this and this.  Seldom have I ever heard Jim at 4&6 ever say that.  Usually, it's, "You don't need that," or, "Why would you want to do that."  Even goes for me too.  After all these years, I know a couple things, but it's easy to try to use a crutch for an idea on how to go faster, or to restore some idea of performance to a chassis or motor.  Sometimes, Jim's easy answer is simple and doesn't even cost money. 

Often, Jim's responses like that get riders going in a good direction.  Some get anrgy with it.  Others want certain things, and Jim will deliever that for a person if they want it.

Regardless, when the shit hits the fan, individuals need to recognize that communication between the actual involved parties is going to be more valuable to the customer/business relationship.


Having been in a few different industries...there's plenty of money to be lost in customers that continually cut everything down in their path.  There aren't many of them, thankfully, but they are there.

The customer is always right?  Yeah, well, go back to how things work in kindergarten...you ask nicely, you show up when youre supposed to, and life sometimes isn't fair to you...Life sucks, go get a helmet.  Everyone has a busy life.  Motorcycle road racing is a small industry.  No one here makes good money playing around in bikes.  If one thinks that one can do better...  And sometimes, the customer isn't right.  There are other customers in our small world that try to make potential problems easier to work with rather than harder to work with.

Have a fun weekend, everyone!

[extrakt0r]

I went to 4&6 cause Super Dave told me to... 

I had my motor built by 4&6 for my 06 R6...

At HPT I had one of the Yamaha OEM Valves brake in 1/2...Rod seperated from the Tulip...

Took the motor out, Super Dave dropped it off for me (thanks again! Beer on me next time  8) ) and within 1 business day they had it ripped apart and Ed had me on the phone letting me know what was needed and what it was going to take...

They also did a CompuTrack for me...No problems here...

Get this...While my 06 R6 was up there they took off my suspension and got them over to Ryan at Lithium so he could get my 25mm Kit installed for my forks...How nice is that? They were willing to take the forks off, box em' up and ship em' off (to for all arguements sake a competitor)...

All I paid was shipping...

I am very impressed with their work, and would recommend them...

Now if Yamaha would just stock their damn parts I would have my "A" bike's motor back... 

[K3 Chris Onwiler]

Jim Rashid and I exchanged a few e-mails.  I didn't hold back a bit in expressing my personal opinions to him.  Rashid took it like a man, and said I was entitled to my opinion.  I must admit, I was impressed by that.  It didn't change certain opinions that I may have, but it greatly increased my respect for Jim himself.

I recieved a voicemail from Kevin Hanson.  In his usual likeable way, he explained a few things to me.  Didn't really apply to certain other situations I've been privvy to, but thanks anyway.  As with all my previous dealings with Kevin, I came away impressed. 

Dave, I'm sorry.  Sorry I stirred you up, sorry I dropped a coin in the slot,  sorry I shook your tree, sorry I cared enough to share an opinion with you, sorry I ever posted to this thread, sorry I ever posted on the CCS forum for that matter.  Sorry I ever went CCS racing.  Sorry I ever called you, PM'd you, spoke to you in person, or uttered your name in my thoughts.

  I'm backing away from this whole subject now.

  Backing away slowly,

hands in plain view,

slowly....

  Almost gone....

  Never going to post to this thread or any other thread relating to this subject ever again....



please just let me leave....






almost gone....









gone.


Dude, you might want to throw a little WD40 on those hinges....

[EX#996]

Don't apologize Chris...

Everyone is entitled to their thoughts, opinions and feelings.  Athough there is one  (or perhaps more than one) who thinks that his is the only one that is valid or matters.

Take all this attention that you received as a compliment.  Apparently they thought enough of your influence in this sport to make the effort to contact you.

Dawn