What would YOU do?

[andy342]

There are no authorized GMD Computrack centers in the midwest to my knowledge.

[Jeff]

Check around Andy... 

[spyderchick]

Check around Andy... 

;D ;D ;D

[andy342]

http://www.racetech.com/SubMenu.asp?cMenu=23&c=Yes&cSubMenu=90&showPage=computrack

[251am]

 Time out here. I understand the deviation from the topic to a broader area. However, I'd like to keep this to the constructive side of what others have done, rather than a flame fest. Locked. 

[251am]

  I took the bike over to TSE, Ed Kwaterski's pumpkin orange EZ Up at BHF a few weekends ago. I pushed the bike hard during practice and couldn't get within 4 seconds of last years best times at BHF, back then, on the OEM suspension.

  So, Ed understands the situation. He shows me how to remove forks, what I need to measure, etc, then I watch as he takes them apart. Valve shim stack, in one of the compression stacks, was Loc-tited together, both stacks in the rebound had divider washers in the middle completely killing oil flow there, and the springs were USED. Also, the springs were a mismatch and wrong for someone over 200#s. Ed knows his stuff. I'm not saying he'll tear down and rebuild your forks during a race weekend, while you watch/help over a 9 hour period, like he did with me, but you can ask.


  Been waiting 3 weeks since the other shop owner promised a partial refund from the $2200 bill. Check's still in the mail.....$550 was charged for their "fork work". 400 for some "kit", and 150 for the install. The owner says he doesn't mind seeing his shop get roasted on the 'net, even though I haven't mentioned them by name. He actually said..." I think it's funny."       

[OmniGLH]

The owner says he doesn't mind seeing his shop get roasted on the 'net, even though I haven't mentioned them by name. He actually said..." I think it's funny."       

I think part of the problem is that no one mentions the shop's name.  There are those of us who are "in the know"... and those that aren't.  Unfortunately, those that aren't in the know don't really have a chance to find out.

I know that any one I know personally has talked about using this shop, I've done my best to share my experiences.  It's worked with some people.  Others, even afterwards, have still fallen victim to this shop owner's stellar salesmanship (he is QUITE the salesman.)

Are there any rules on this board regarding mentioning the shop's name?  Can Jeff get in trouble?  If not - we should bring it up and perhaps make a sticky thread.  Their BS has gone on long enough.

251 - I can guarantee you that as soon as he hangs up the phone with you, he is ripping on you to everyone that is within earshot.  I've seen it happen personally.  He is really good at making you think he's your best pal to your face.  You should hear the shit he says about the folks over at ChicagolandSportbikes.com (and his shop is an exclusive site sponsor!!)

[rfoan27]

Truly yes it maybe improper to mention the Shops name but, you say this guy is laughing about this hole ordeal.  I don't believe you will see your refund anytime soon... I think the Shop Name should get posted in thie Forum.  We are all racers here, and we need to help and protect one anotherfrom all kinds of things including getting ripped -off.  I have personally been ripped-off by a race shop.  This shop knew it all and had 25 years of racing experience.  YEAH Right.  every motor after mine I've heard of coming out of this shop has gone back with problems.  My friends and I notified the American Motorcycle Association and started to spread the word that this so called Race Shop was ripping people off and doing crap work.  Rush, Rush. Rush that's all they do try and get bikes out the door.  Well were did the quality work go...

None the less unless until we are allowed by Jeff to form some type of forum on the CCS Forum for Good Repritable Racing Shops and Bad Shops we can only mention the good ones by name.  But I would definately network the Shop out through your friends and contacts through racing so someone else doesn't fall into the trap as well.

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

Best thing is to write a letter to Road Racing World about how this shop screws people and shoddy work.

[K3 Chris Onwiler]

Is there an actual policy preventing us from mentioning the shop's name?  Certianly no one has ever prevented me from loudly proclaiming that
Lithium Motorsports and Suspension Solutions
Valley Racing
Mason Racin Tires
Spyder Leatherworks
Ed Kwaterski of Trackside Engineering
Dave Rosno and Visionsports
and
Superbike Italia
are all firms that have gone above and beyond for my dollar, displaying the same passion for this sport that I feel myself.

So why can't we discuss the name of this shyster ripoff shop openly?  Is it because they sponsor Rosno, or because their name equals ten?

[K3 Chris Onwiler]

Honestly, it seems as if this board would be doing racers a service if it had a section devoted to shops and their reputations.  I realize that no shop can please everyone, but one badmouthing customer would not ruin a good shop's reputation, because many others would post in defense.
The bad shops, however, would hopefully be disrespected right out of business.  Considering that "Shop Ten" can't even seem to pay his bills on time and has therefore been dropped as a customer by many supply houses, it probably wouldn't take much of a reduction in reputation to push him out of the game.
BTW, if you think your refund check is in the mail, get in line behind the suppliers that are still waiting for their checks....

[EX#996]

Once again K3, thanks for saying what everyone was thinking.

Dawn