New R6 front # plate placement Questions?

[edge23]

This may be a dumb question but with the new R6 it will require a number plate either on one side or the other for the front of the bike due to the ram air. So my question is which side does CCS require it on, on the front? Does this requirement coincide with other orgs so I only have to paint one side or the other for the front number plate.

[G-reg]

Depends on the track!

The number plate has to be on the same side as the scoring tower.. I had to change the number plates on my rc51 from side to side pretty much every weekend.  Or you can put it above the air intake and half on the windshield if you don't want to keep switching it.

[edge23]

Looking at the race bodywork that most likely won't be an option.

[extrakt0r]

I would say the Left Side is your best bet..

Thinking back, Blackhawk is the only track where the scoring tower in on the Right in the MW if Memory Serves...

RA, MAM, HPT, Hallett, Gingerman, Autobahn South & North, Barber all are on the Left Side of the Track...

Blackhawk is the only track that has to tower on the right...

If Memory Serves...  ;)

[edge23]

That sounds about right and thats most of the tracks I would go to anyways. I asked the same question onthe CRA forum to the BoD and they all said the same thing left side is fine not only that but scoring usually looks at the tail for numbers anyways.

[stk0308]

I would think looking around at RC51s, ZX10Rs and ZX6R(RR)s would be a good guide, as they've had central ram air for a few years now.

[H-man]

Edge,

Given where you live, I'm guessing that WERA isn't one of the race orgs you're concerned about.  But, if you should choose to enter a WERA event, they're changing thier rule.   Starting 2006, the front numbers MUST be in the center.

[tzracer]

I use rc51 bodywork on my SV. I put white background on the lower half of the windshield and put the numbers above the ram air. The rules state that the numbers on the front have to be on the side for scoring. Speaking with the scorers in our region, they mostly use the front plate for scoring. If you do not have the numbers on the correct side you may not pass tech or get scored.

[edge23]

I would like to run a couple of WERA events so thats good to know. I don't know how they are going to require number plates in the front when the front is taken up by a gaping ram air hole though and its not just he R6.
I ran an R1 for the last couple of years and did put white vinyl on the windshiled however again the new R6 does not have much frontal area, I would almost be putting vinyl over the whole windscreen.

[H-man]

You may wish to post your question over on the WERA board to find out what other '06 R6-ers will be doing about thier front plate.

[edge23]

I'll do that in the next day or so. Thanks for all the responses I appreciate your help
Sean

[H-man]

Edge,

Here's the answer for you.

But, I believe your concern for space is based on the photos of the '06 in street body work.  Take a good look at Yammi's M1 (their GP bike).  It too has the centered ram air inlet, but the plastic above it rises to roughly where the side mirrors would be placed.  The size of the windscreen is much less on the M1.

So.... my guess is that most of the mfgrs of race plastic for the '06 R6 will follow the patten of the M1.  If this happens and you plan on using race plastic instead of street skins, then you s/b good to go.

Centering the front number is the common placement location for all the orgs.

[extrakt0r]

Edge,

Here's the answer for you.

But, I believe your concern for space is based on the photos of the '06 in street body work.  Take a good look at Yammi's M1 (their GP bike).  It too has the centered ram air inlet, but the plastic above it rises to roughly where the side mirrors would be placed.  The size of the windscreen is much less on the M1.

So.... my guess is that most of the mfgrs of race plastic for the '06 R6 will follow the patten of the M1.  If this happens and you plan on using race plastic instead of street skins, then you s/b good to go.

Centering the front number is the common placement location for all the orgs.

Here is a Pic of the Sharkskinz Plastics for the 2006 R6...

[edge23]

Looking at that photo doesn't leave anything for the front. 6 inches would be up past the gauges. Thats alot of vinyl when I could just paint the left or right side.

[H-man]

Oh well.  So much for that idea if they all follow the commercial body style

FWIW, you're really not likely to look through the windscreen below the guages anyway.  Also, like Sean (Mongo) on the WERA board suggested, you can paint the windscreen instead of using vinyl and get a neat, smooth, professioanl looking surface to work on.

[edge23]

I do paint my number plates on and put vinyl on the windscreen where needed but not 3/4 of the way up it, I don't want to make my bike look all nasty with a ton of vinyl all over the body work. It just looks like ass IMO. I may just be a club racer but I still prefer to have a professional look about me.
In the end I will do what it takes I was just hoping for some flexibility with the race orgs regarding how the design of todays MC's are appearing.

[Eric Kelcher]

All tracks always acceptable 8" numbers on white or school bus yellow(not flourescent) with at least a one inch seperation between numbers and background edge mounted in center of upper fairing.

Also acceptable

Side number plate must be such that the numbers are level not stepped and may be on one side but that side must be the side scoring is on. 6" numbers are allowed on a case by case basis (ie you cannot make a tiny background on bike that acceptable plate could be painted/sticker used)

No other stickers or decorations may be applied in the number plate area

[Big_Deezul]

so would these work Eric?

http://www.racemotorcycles.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?board=ccs1;action=display;num=1134270866;start=0#7

[tzracer]

The scorers will have the final word on your number plate. Even if you pass tech, if the scorers have trouble reading your number, you will be asked to change your number or the the scorers will not score you in future races. This is how I added a number plate to RC51 bodywork. The numbers are 8".

[Scotty Ryan]

Here's a question for all you worry worts out there....What the heck are we supposed to do with the tail section numbers? I honestly don't think I could even come close to fitting 6" numbers(727 for AMA & 72 for CCS/ASRA) on my tail section.... I can tell you right now that I'm not gonna put some stupid additional number plate on my tail section to make it bigger, I guess we could always go back in the day kinda retro style, You know when they used to put big white circular number plates on the side of the fairing.....

[extrakt0r]

Here's a question for all you worry worts out there....What the heck are we supposed to do with the tail section numbers? I honestly don't think I could even come close to fitting 6" numbers(727 for AMA & 72 for CCS/ASRA) on my tail section....

Even with race bodywork? The skarkinz Tail looks about the same size as my 04 R1 Tail and it will fit 3 6" numbers on it...

[GrecianFormula40]

All tracks always acceptable 8" numbers on white or school bus yellow(not flourescent) with at least a one inch seperation between numbers and background edge mounted in center of upper fairing.

Hi Eric,

Can you please explain your aversion to the brighter yellow plates? I am one of the racers with optic yellow plates, I raced all last season and just had one tech mention it to me. I believe the intent for yellow plates is to easily distinguish expert from amatuer, and to provide a contrasting background for the numbers to be viewed against. Doesn't optic yellow clearly accomplish this? If anything, it is easier to view from a distance which would be an advantage for the scorers. The rulebook states "yellow" and does not specify the type of yellow (schoolbus). Some of the new buses, and new street signs I have seen are now coming out in the optic yellow. If it is a big deal I will repaint my bike at the next opportunity.

Thanks in advance!

Randy Sullinger
GP181 Am

[Eric Kelcher]

Yellow, period, is the color

Sorry if I might have confused things by saying schoolbus I didn't know there was a differnet color they were painting them in different parts of the country.

I have no idea what optic yellow is  ???

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

I have no idea what optic yellow is  ???

Kinda a very bright yellow.

[tstruyk]

Hi Eric,

Can you please explain your aversion to the brighter yellow plates? I am one of the racers with optic yellow plates, I raced all last season and just had one tech mention it to me. I believe the intent for yellow plates is to easily distinguish expert from amatuer, and to provide a contrasting background for the numbers to be viewed against. Doesn't optic yellow clearly accomplish this? If anything, it is easier to view from a distance which would be an advantage for the scorers. The rulebook states "yellow" and does not specify the type of yellow (schoolbus). Some of the new buses, and new street signs I have seen are now coming out in the optic yellow. If it is a big deal I will repaint my bike at the next opportunity.

Thanks in advance!

Randy Sullinger
GP181 Am

sandbagger... your plates should be white anyway... not off white, not cream... white... like your hair  ;D