Daytona Storm Question

[Super Dave]

If you have a super bike that can sustain winds of 100 mph or more, go for it. Even the stickiest tires won't keep you on the track. ;D

I think I can hit about 140 on a 600 at Blackhawk... 8)

[Suzy]

I bet you could, you're good (on a bike).  
But.... let's add some flying debris to the picture, palm trees, rooftops, etc., then what? RUUUUN Forest RUUUN.  ;D
Winds currently at 175 mph.

[PaulV]

Yeah,


"It's not THAT the winds are blowin, its' WHAT the winds are blowin.  If you got a yield sign in your spleen, conditioning does'nt come into play"
Ron White
Blue Collar Comedy Tour

Paul

[clutch]

that storm is huge....350 miles across.

[Super Dave]

And it's slow.  Sounds like the whole ROC event might be over before it hits land.

[Super Dave]

5MPH for movement.  Cancel ROC 'cause the storm will be there Monday...

[RedlineRick]

I don't know if you have been through a hurricane, but you don't have to get a direct hit, they tend to be a few miles wide.  I have worked through one hurricane this year, and rebuilt after three this year, that were not direct hit, and there was a little damage from all.  I am not trying to be a smart ass, but there is no way people should be expected to show up for a race when there is a possibility of a storm, especially a Cat. 3 hitting anywhere near the area.  Plus I cannot abandon my house to go racing, because everyone who lives in Florida doesn't live in Daytona.
By the way, I did back away from the TV last two months ago, just before the hurricane turned south, and hit my neghborhood, knocking down 10 utility poles, and dumped water up over my knees. And other organizers should be more important than the lives of a few guys who ride motorcycles, right?  Dave, I have seen you on other websights, and I know you are a good guy, but when it comes to peoples lives and property, you can't be too cautious.  

A few miles wide?

I think Katrina was 750 miles wide & the very outer bands dumped a serious amount of rain on us here in Daytona Beach.

Learn to prepare for seasonal storms off season, whether it be here in Florida or up in snow country.

As the Governor said last season after all the traffic jams "Don't evacuate 100 miles if you can *SAFELY* evacuate 10-20 miles".

[RedlineRick]

What gets me is that every projection of the hurricane shows major rain for Daytona, but weather.com only shows a 30% chance of precipitation for Sat and Sunday.  I hope they are right.  Maybe I am just in denial.

Remember that Daytona has no TV stations and the local stations (2,6 & 9 +FOX) are all located in Orlando. So what you hear from their weather segments is based on "Central Florida" not Daytona.

Don't believe that CH2 tower on US1 (the city now owns the building) that station was built to get around some FCC licensing years ago.

In the urban whirl of life in Orlando and their "Shotgun News" these days, they tend to overlook us up here in Daytona.
It could be bright and sunny in your motel room on A1A (Beachside) and raining at DIS (Mainland).

The very outer bands of a hurricane can dump allot of rain and are very hard to predict.

Just make sure Ya got a bottle of sunscreen & RainX in your kit and you'll be all set.   ;D

[kmf600]

5MPH for movement.  Cancel ROC 'cause the storm will be there Monday...

Well last week when I asked the question, it was projected to hit closer to Saturday.  All I wanted to know last week was, "How do we find out if it will be postponed ar cancelled?"  I now know no one knows who makes any decisions, and if they did the rest of the people there wouldn't know what to do if some one does make one.  
I know now not to expect anything from the people who run Daytona(CCS or Daytona).  They can barely find their finger up their arse, they haven't figured out it doesn't go there or to take it out yet.  

"Go to gate 40 to register.  No go back to 70.  They don't know what they are talking about, go back to 40.  You can't show up at 10:30 and expect to race. I don't care if you did preregister, you have to wait in line at 7:00 in the morning with everyone else.  Pre-reg does not give you a grid position.  You have to pre-reg then re-reg to get a grid position.  You have to practice before you can race.  You can't drive your truck in here.  I don't care if you have to drop off your bike, ok let him drop his bike off then get the truck out."  
CCS and Daytona, you make this harder than it should be.  If the Daytona people are that stupid, have ROC at Homestead.  
This experience really makes me appreciate Mr. DeGouw.  Thanks Henry for allowing racing in Florida to be fun.  

I don't hate CCS or the track at Daytona.  I think the track is fun, there has got to be a better way to run this event.  Our money is the same size and color as NASCAR's.  It should be valued as much.  Of coarse we don't have a gazillion dollars like them, but we pay what they ask for.

[Suzy]

The way things sound, and from what a corner worker told me from going there last year, if you camp, you are not allowed to go in and out of the track. That is ridiculous. Why don't they have the ROC at Gingerman, or a more people friendly track? :)

[GSXR RACER MIKE]

"Go to gate 40 to register.  No go back to 70.  They don't know what they are talking about, go back to 40.  You can't show up at 10:30 and expect to race. I don't care if you did preregister, you have to wait in line at 7:00 in the morning with everyone else.  Pre-reg does not give you a grid position.  You have to pre-reg then re-reg to get a grid position.  You have to practice before you can race.  You can't drive your truck in here.  I don't care if you have to drop off your bike, ok let him drop his bike off then get the truck out."  
CCS and Daytona, you make this harder than it should be.  If the Daytona people are that stupid, have ROC at Homestead.

     It seems aparent by your post about Henry and Homestead that you've raced with CCS before, for that reason I'm somewhat suprised by your post. I just went and looked at the event schedule for the ROC and it clearly states that 'Registration closes at 8am for all participants in that days events'. I don't know of any CCS event I have been to where they were allowing people to register for that days races after registration closed, usually by 8am for big events or 9am for smaller events (except in rare cases where the racer had travel troubles or something). Also the pre-registration statement is common knowledge, you still have to go thru registration before it closes for that days events, even if you are pre-registered. Daytona has a real space issue with the fenced in pit area and can't have racers leaving their personal vehicles in there, why should you be given special treatment? I'm not trying to be a smartass here, but it sure seems like your whining about things that are standard for everyone.

     I live about 2-1/2 hours away from Road America and have driven the route many times. A couple years ago I left at 4:30am to go race at RA with an expected arrival of about 7am, but experienced travel troubles in Milwaukee. Road construction was going on, unknown to me, and an accident had occured in that area so a traffic jam resulted. By the time I got to RA it was after the 8am registration closing time, it was 8:07am to be exact. I told them what happened and I was told by the woman in registration that it didn't matter and that I should have left earlier to be prepared for something like that (even though I explained I had left at a time which should have put me there when registration opened at 7am)! I turned around and drove home very unhappy because someone else caused me to miss racing at the only CCS event at RA that season. Could I blame CCS for that? NO, they have rules and I had to follow them just like everyone else!

[GSXR RACER MIKE]

Why don't they have the ROC at Gingerman, or a more people friendly track? :)

     Location of the ROC has been discussed into the ground here before. The main reason for Daytona is timing of the event which puts it in cold weather for the Northern tracks. Also is the whole connection with Biketoberfest at that time at Daytona. Another issue is tracks that are capable of handling not only large grids, but also large numbers of participants in the pits. To top all that off is the whole status of racing at Daytona, something only a small handfull of people in the world can say they have done. The track is unique with the high speed high banking, an experience most never get to experience anywhere else. :)