Consistency...

[Super Dave]

If you look closely, Monte posted in Classifieds in not in the general section.  If it was moved, there would be a link in the general section with a lock that said "moved by ______."

I trash the moved by things after a few days because they just take up space for stuff that is being talked about.

I've been doing it for quite some time.  There are only twenty spots for ongoing first page discussions.  At times, it's very active.

Lately, not.

I have asked Shawn about adding other sections.  Hasn't happened.

[Jeff]

I have asked Shawn about adding other sections.  Hasn't happened.

I've volunteered to upgrade the board to the latest version of supported code which will provide far more functionality and usability...  no reply...

[ekraft84]

Race reports are quite a stretch ..

[L8brake731]

My 2 cents; Dave has the right to vent (female cannine), he is a Moderator, he has a point. The absence of a policy in place for this specific thread just says that there are some people that have been choosen to THINK and to and to make decisions based on specificity.
Dawn likes to play nice and to make nice with everyone. (not a bad quality for a person ;D)As a moderator to make decisions and to keep "consistancy" she is not the person to do so. It takes nuts for this. Policy is Dawn's friend and she can operate more efficiently with policy. (Corporate America...) This is a public bulletin board and to speak in public is just free speach. Or, it is a private bulletin board and all is censored?

Ever hear the saying; "using their handbooks instead of their heads"? A lot of wrong decisions are made due to "Policy". One should be EXTREMELY careful before installing a "Policy".

Which one is it Moderators?

[K3 Chris Onwiler]

Oh, this is SOOOOO gonna cost me....

Consistancy?  How about this?  Dave, lately you have been a consistant pain in the ass!
Near as I can see, this particular version of an ongoing bloody mess got started because K3 CHRIS ONWILER had the AUDACITY to suggest that putting SV650 mounted novice street riders out in the same session with GSXR1000 riding expert racers at a track like Road America sounded like a bad idea. I certianly am not the only one to feel this way.   Any time you have 50-60 mph speed differences, you have a dangerous situation.  Mixing levels of talent makes it worse.  CCS tries to avoid situations like that.  All the other track day orgs try to avoid situations like that.  Even the safety director at Road America saw it that way, and he groups high performance vehicles for a living.  Perhaps the fact that Road America wouldn't allow you to do it your way might tell you something?
Now, anyone who's ever been out on a racetrack could see that this wasn't wise practice, but that bit of logic didn't jive with the policy of the guy who was letting you run your school at his event.  Near as I can see, you decided that it was more important to loudly defend an unwise policy that was making you money than it was to use sound judgment.  To that end, you started assasinating the character of anyone who disagreed with you.
Dave, you jumped all over me like I was clueless about how track days work, even going so far as to slyly infer that I didn't have the nads to be out there in fast company.  Not only was that low, unprofessional, and undeserved, but it was just plain mean.  You never talked that way to me when I was singing the praises of your school at awards banquets!  So what?  The minute I disagree with you, (or stop giving you money) I become a worthless P.O.S. who doesn't deserve to have an OPINION?  Over the past year, I've noticed many instances where you've belittled past customers and friends, simply because they didn't share your attitude on a given point.  Just my opinion, but that's no way to keep friends and influience customers, buddy.
Back to the Road America track day thread.  That one really turned into a pissing match.  At the time, I decided to back away and let it go.  But YOU won't let it go.  Dawn tried to kill the thread by moving it, because people were complaining.  (I was not one of the complainers.  I can take care of myself.)  But you had to go off on this policy rant.  Really, I don't think you care what posts where.  You just enjoy arguing, and won't let anything go!
Screw it!  Somebody has to tell you that you're acting like a spoiled child.  What's next?  Will you put your hands over your ears and scream until everyone else leaves the board?
In other words, Dave, you were WRONG!  But rather than admit that, or even ALLOW SOMEONE ELSE TO HAVE A VIEWPOINT, you decided to go on a tirade.  Dawn tried to move the thread and let it die, but you started new threads to continue the argument.  At this point, it doesn't seem to be about anything other than you insisting on having the last word.
Just for the record, Dave, have you EVER been wrong?  Have you EVER just let something go?  I got so embarassed by that track day thread that I started apologizing for having offered my opinion in the first place!
Seriously, dude.  It's like no one can have an opinion unless it agrees with yours, and sometimes you are actually arguing against logic!  It's almost as if Cornercamping Dan killed you and stole your body!  Whatever happened to the Super Dave we all used to know and love?  This whole thing isn't about separating threads that might make someone some money.  It's about trying to calm YOU, and abate your ranting.

Well, I've really painted a bullseye on my chest now.  If I happen to turn up missing....

[L8brake731]

Any time you have 50-60 mph speed differences, you have a dangerous situation.  Mixing levels of talent makes it worse.  CCS tries to avoid situations like that.

So, there IS NO problem mixing GTL and GTU No difference as far as I can see in closing speeds. ;)

I'm not taking a side here, but that's a lame argument. Especially when it involves safety, CCS and that decision. It's about $$ when decisions are made like that. Since both races took 25 minutes to run and CCS needed to condense their schedule; blah, blah, blah. There you have it.

No policy in place there yet.....

[EmerWil]

Just as an outsider looking in.  

Wouldn't it be a conflict of interest to be a moderator of a board where you were trying to promote events/products that he/she would financially benefit from?

Maybe it would make more sense to resign as moderator so you can continue to promote your products.

[EmerWil]

Just a suggestion... Perhaps we need a "services" section.  Trackday orgs, schools, photographers, race shops, etc. could post there without getting burried in "ZX6R Valvestem for sale" posts.

To me, these posts don't really fit all that well in general or classifieds, but could warrant their own home.

that's a great idea.  They made a cornerworker section. Why can't we have a products/services forum?

[Jeff]

You could!  The problem is, the guy who owns the forum has either:

No time
No interest
No ability

to make the changes....

Shawn, this isn't a blast at you (if you even read this), because I MORE than understand the time commitment, life, etc.  But it would be cool to consider letting a few people help you out...

[EmerWil]

You could!  The problem is, the guy who owns the forum has either:

No time
No interest
No ability

to make the changes....

Shawn, this isn't a blast at you (if you even read this), because I MORE than understand the time commitment, life, etc.  But it would be cool to consider letting a few people help you out...

this is currently the problem that Super Dave and Dawn are having.  Shawn picked moderators that maybe we too close to the goings-on of the board.  One of the other motorcycle boards I am on uses mostly moderators that don't even ride and are not interested in motorcycles.  They just keep the boards on an even keel and moving along nicely.

[EX#996]

I just want to keep it civil on the board.  I have nothing to gain as the moderator.  No sponsors, no business to promote, just here to keep and even keel so to speak.  

Unfortunately I've lost control of the rudder....   :-/

Dawn

[Steviebee]

 It's almost as if Cornercamping Dan killed you and stole your body!  

Thats low.   :o