Not guilty?

[L8brake731]

Jim:
As for your comment in regards to the "$$"; California is the same.
The battle is about who can present the best story, how much that person can afford to have the story told, etc.
If I were to ever get into trouble (and get caught), I'd be sunk :( Racers have better things to spend their "$$" on ;D

[K3 Chris Onwiler]

The person who has the most to fear from the legal system is the middle-class wage-earner.  If you've been working hard and straight all your life just to have a little, then you lose either way when the law comes calling.  Innocent?  You probably just spent a year's wages to prove it.  Guilty?  All that stuff you've been paying for will be gone when you get out, and you won't have a job, either.
Celebritys and the super-rich can buy freedom.  (Except Martha Stewert.)  Crooks don't care, because jail is just a place to chill, network, and learn new criminal skills.  The rest of us have everything to lose, so we tread carefully and try to avoid trouble.

[OmniGLH]

Funny as hell... LMAO'ing here in the office.

Triumph the wonder dog interviews the MJ fans as they await the verdict:

Right-click save-as:

[gma]

(Ascends ...)

Ahem ...

Has anyone given thought to the possibility that he in fact did not commit the crimes he was accused of?

One might think that there would be more evidence if the allegations were true, wouldn't they? We had a lot of "he said / she said bull****" from a woman who has a track record of gold-digging, but we didn't have DNA, video, phone calls, photos, bodily fluid samples, skin under the fingernails or abrupt changes in the behavior of the alleged victim, did we? ... did we? What we had was an abrupt change in the behavior of the mother of a terminally ill child when Jackson made the decision to stop providing care and support for the family, didn't we?

No one argues that he's different. But consider this – he's EARNED the right to be different. He's sacrificed his entire being – all of his life – for the sake of others – in singing, dancing, Neverland and more. Think about that – he's never lived his own life. Think about that. He has earned every fkn right to be himself.

Go to the library and read about Peter Pan Syndrome. It's a genuine condition that he has. This accounts for a lot of his behavior. Look in the mental health section – not 'lynching' or 'legal'.

Have any of you ever been stalked? Falsely accused? Gold-dug? Extorted? Have you ever heard of a pro athlete or other high profile figure being targeted by someone who has nothing to lose and something to prove? Funny how often these things disappear – and not because they're settled. The media hates to bring good news, but if you look, you'll find it. Usually, the empty accusations evaporate. Until you've been victimized in this manner, you have no clue – NO FKN CLUE – how crazy people can be – no clue. Do you really think Tyson was guilty – really? Think about it ...

Rather than teaching and requiring people to drive better and execute better judgment, we accept their poor abilities, judgments and behaviors and instead build airbags and permit repeat drunk drivers (don't fkn get me started on THAT) to continue to drive. Heaven forbid we should hold "mother of the year" responsible for once again fabricating and perpetuating a lie that potentially nets her financial gain.

I think a couple of things ...

In time, I think the kid will come forward with the truth. I think that guilt is instilled in us all – it just takes more time to work with some of us, but it eventually works with all of us. Even Malvo / Allen (as sick as they are) were eaten by enough guilt to turn themselves in by writing a taunting, clue-filled letter to a magazine that led authorities to them as they slept in their car at a rest stop. I think eventually, the kid will have to cut loose with this.

Less rich? Wake the fk up ... Trump stated MONTHS ago that WHEN Jackson was acquitted, he wanted Jackson to come perform in his new casino. Enter Steve Wynn and what do you have? The two deepest pockets in the country inside a chain link cage with no gloves for the biggest ticket in the country. But wait! Then there's Asia and Europe – who are BALLISTIC over Jackson. Is Asia wealthy enough to get MJ? (Insert cynical laugh here) I don't even think that FOX can come up with the coin to satisfy what MJ will now command as a performer (though they are sure to try). People who LIKE Howard Stern listen to him for 2.5 hours per day. People who HATE him, listen for 3.25. Do you not think for one minute that if Jackson is performing anywhere, his haters won't buy a ticket? Less rich? "Don't be stupid!".

Also, learn to understand non-verbal communication and accessing cues. In every tape I've seen of Jackson, I haven't detected fabricated responses. I DID see them when the woman drove her kids into the lake and pleaded for them to come back (she got busted by an embedded traffic light sensor – AMAZING story). I DID see them when OJ's verdict was read and all through the trial (these were VERY obvious). And I DID see them when Clinton made his "step off" speech (though this was mostly in the exceptionally crafty choice of the words he used). In short, though I could be wrong, I don't believe he's lied when addressing these issues.

Lastly, Jackson has the legal right to file against the "victim's" mother and the state. I hope he does. If he does, he'll win hands down (there is plenty of perjury on record). I hope that someone, sometime SOON straightens out the headcases who are polluting our country by perpetuating the idiocy that the way to succeed in life is to victimize people who have EARNED what they have.

Oh ... and don't forget ... from a small part of Italy, the worldwide ruling came recently that there was a "one boy limit". If the King of Pop went to divinity school, perhaps he could use this as his mulligan.

Yes, I could be wrong, he could be guilty – but then again, he could just be different.

Thx for reading ...

(descends ...)

[dylanfan53]

What? How dare you come in here and try to be reasonable about this.  This board isn't for open minded, thinking individuals like yourself.  We are bigots and we demand a forum for our snide opinions.  Where else do we have the freedom to carp ad nauseum about the American juducial system?  You must be some kind of left leaning Hollywood media liberal type.  Fah! Fah! I fart in your general direction and blow my nose on your pillow!!
 ;D

Okay, okay. Seriously... I agree that wacko Jacko is just weird enough that it's quite possible he didn't actually do anything.

But wait! This is an internet forum...He's a witch! He's a witch! (Well, we did do the nose..and the hat...)
Burn him anyway!!

By the way, excellent writeup. +1

[K3 Chris Onwiler]

But wait! This is an internet forum...He's a witch! He's a witch! (Well, we did do the nose..and the hat...)
Burn him anyway!!

;D

[K3 Chris Onwiler]

Please, Griff.  You made an eloquent case, and it's hard to disagree with many of your points, but....
I really think Jackson is a child molester.  I think he's done it in the past, and paid off the victims to avoid trial and prison.  Sure it's wrong that this pschyo broad was trying to rip off his millions, and yes, she was probably lying.  I mean with the guy's record, who would trust him with their kids?  Only a gold digging extortionest.  But that doesn't change the fact that Jackson is what he is.  Would I like to see OJ get the chair for some other unrelated murder that he actually did not commit?  Karmic justice is good, too.
As for Jackson, what is that old saying?  If it walks like a duck....

[Jeff]

Here's the thing...  Child molester or not, I'm not letting my kids spend unlimited amounts of time there or sleep in his bed!  That is absolutely insane.

Sure, it MAY be perfectly innocent, but I'm not interested in that type of exposure.

Looking at the mother is what killed the case.  The woman is a parasite.  She sues and leaches off anyone/anything with money.  Right now, anybody with a few $M in the bank could probably slaughter her family on video and be acquitted based on how many times she's cried wolf...

All that said, Griff, I agree with your post, and I don't know whether he did it or not.  I can't say...

[gma]

Hear for all to see ...







Thx for the props, gang ...

[Clay]

I'm sorry, but that interview he did sealed it for me.  HE SLEEPS WITH KIDS!!!!!  Ya know, it's fine to do with your own children and that's where it ends!  The guy isn't right in the head and should not be allowed to even LOOK at a child anymore.  

[Jeff]

Gotcha Clay, but the thing is, be appalled at the moronic parents, not MJ...

[Speedballer347]

Please, Griff.  You made an eloquent case, and it's hard to disagree with many of your points, but....
I really think Jackson is a child molester.  I think he's done it in the past, and paid off the victims to avoid trial and prison.  Sure it's wrong that this pschyo broad was trying to rip off his millions, and yes, she was probably lying.  I mean with the guy's record, who would trust him with their kids?  Only a gold digging extortionest.  But that doesn't change the fact that Jackson is what he is.  Would I like to see OJ get the chair for some other unrelated murder that he actually did not commit?  Karmic justice is good, too.
As for Jackson, what is that old saying?  If it walks like a duck....

+1 !!!