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Started by PJ, April 26, 2005, 10:37:20 AM

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secularist

alright...

who's ridden both an SV and a Buell?  

comparisons in riding?  wrenching?  costs to run?  and how much $$$ to you have to sink into those pigs to get them running well?

PJ

#13
Quotealright...

who's ridden both an SV and a Buell?  

comparisons in riding?  wrenching?  costs to run?  and how much $$$ to you have to sink into those pigs to get them running well?

First a disclaimer. I work for Harley (and Buell). But I've raced both SVs and XBs. Here are my thoughts. They both make pretty good race platforms and are obviously class competitive.

The SV is lighter, revs quicker and has a smooth shifting 6-speed gearbox. The SV is less expensive to purchase initially. I have no idea on maintenance costs since I've only endurance raced other people's SVs. There are plenty of other people on the board who've raced SVs for years and can chime in on that.

The XB is more expensive but has premium, fully adjustable suspension front and rear along with a very rigid frame and super short wheelbase. The stock engine makes more torque. It also never needs valve adjustments (hydraulic). The gearbox is a 5-speed. Stock belt drive works fine, but a chain drive conversion kit is necessary if you want ideal gearing for a variety of tracks.

I've kept my Buells mostly stock and they work really well. Though they are heavy, they handle great and make gobs of torque. Reliable too. 49 races last year without a mechanical or DNF. Just change the oil every weekend, gas and go.

Tim Hall and Robert Stellfox from the CCS Florida region switched from SVs to XBs last season. They would have some good insight.
Paul James
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Mark Bernard

QuoteThats only because I wont be racing in T-bike. ;D ;D ;D

Thats because your scared. You... you.... "OOMPA LOOMPA"  ::) ;)
Mark (Bernie) Bernard
Race Control CCS/ASRA - Mid-West Region

Mark Bernard

QuoteCharles Lee Bailey won $600 of Buell contingency money this past weekend at Road America. He's a new amateur and it was his first roadrace weekend.


Who was that masked man?? Bailey was freggin flying! Great job for his first CCS weekend. "PRICK" lol! Seriously though, nice job Charles!

grumble...grumble... growl... I have got to get me an XB. "Oh Becky... We need to talk!"   :-[ :D
Mark (Bernie) Bernard
Race Control CCS/ASRA - Mid-West Region

Mark Bernard

Quotealright...

who's ridden both an SV and a Buell?  

comparisons in riding?  wrenching?  costs to run?  and how much $$$ to you have to sink into those pigs to get them running well?


I have only ridden the tube frame. I have only ridden the XB on the street. But as far as my "Dinosour" goes... It has been extreamly reliable. This is the 4th year I have rode it and it is for the most part a stock bike. I have NEVER has the cases apart since I bought it from Buell. (that statement was for Ed Key's benifit) lol! I just preform the normal matinance, and at the end of the year I freshin up the top end. I.E. valve job, pistons and rings. Tons of power and torque for a stock motor.

Is there an XB in my future? Definatly! The tube frame might be for sale at the end of the season. I have got to get me an XB. So I am keeping an eye out for on here in the near future. Mark!
Mark (Bernie) Bernard
Race Control CCS/ASRA - Mid-West Region

jguyer

QuoteWho was that masked man?? Bailey was freggin flying! Great job for his first CCS weekend. "PRICK" lol! Seriously though, nice job Charles!

grumble...grumble... growl... I have got to get me an XB. "Oh Becky... We need to talk!"   :-[ :D

The masked man goes by "Lee"... it was funny to hear the announcer call him "Charles" and "Chuck".  None of us even knew that was his name until this weekend.

Anyway, RA was his first road race EVER.  He won every amateur race he was in (beating many experts), and helped us to 3rd in class in the team challenge.  He was also running in the top 10 of the FUSA Thunderbike race before he fell at low speed on the last lap.  The really impressive thing is that his bike is basically a stock XB12, and even has bone stock suspension.  

Very impressive.

Josh

Baltobuell

#18
Damn you Paul! I've had it set in my mind to sit this year out (turning 50 made me think) and catch up on life that I've been neglecting. Now Buell wants to pay for my race weekends? Maybe I'll have to dust it off the tuber, adjust the pushrods, and head to Summit to see if I got anything left. I really wasn't planning on racing at all this year, but heck, it's like offering an old junkie a free fix and I have a whole day to get my stuff organized.

Mark Bernard

Paul... Any idea when the form will be available to fill out on line? Can you post a little something when the form is made available? Thanks my friend! Mark B.
Mark (Bernie) Bernard
Race Control CCS/ASRA - Mid-West Region

Clay

THAT is the kind of backing you need.  It shows us racers that they REALLY want us to use their product.  It really stinks to represent a certain manufacturer and have them basically care less.  Major kudos for Buell!!!!

PJ

#21
QuoteAnyway, RA was his first road race EVER.  

Yeah, he was super fast, riding his XB speedway style. He slipped past me in the F-USA Thunderbike race, both ends swapping under braking. :o

It was most impressive. Right up to the point where he pitched it away in the bend.

He's going to be tough to beat in the amateur classes this year. Hell, he's going to be tough to beat in the expert classes...
Paul James
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PJ

QuoteDamn you Paul! I've had it set in my mind to sit this year out (turning 50 made me think) and catch up on life that I've been neglecting. Now Buell wants to pay for my race weekends?

Come on out and play, Doug!

Ed Key is turning 50 this year. Doesn't seem to slow him down much...  ;)
Paul James
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PJ

QuotePaul... Any idea when the form will be available to fill out on line? Can you post a little something when the form is made available? Thanks my friend! Mark B.

Should be soon, Mark. I'll post a notice when it's finally approved. And if it's done before Blackhawk, I'll bring a bunch down with me.
Paul James
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