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Racing Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: Chuck on March 29, 2005, 11:36:27 AM

Title: Engine Ice Vs Water Wetter
Post by: Chuck on March 29, 2005, 11:36:27 AM
Sorry if this has been hashed over before, but I had a bike get a little hot and blow some coolant at the track and wondered what I could do to cool it down a bit.

Maybe it's the name of the product, but why did I think Engine ICE would run cooler than Water Wetter?  Any thoughts or experience with these 2 coolants?
Title: Re: Engine Ice Vs Water Wetter
Post by: Steviebee on March 29, 2005, 12:12:12 PM
Unless you've modded the motor?  i dont think your bike should run hot running on the track (lots of air flow )??

Mine did but it was because i had the overflow and bypass lines screwed up , so there wasnt getting any pressure in the system.

??

Im a water/water wetter guy.
Title: Re: Engine Ice Vs Water Wetter
Post by: LMsports on March 29, 2005, 12:16:00 PM
We actually have run both products but now run Silkolene Pro Cool. They all seem to work pretty good but Silkolene pays contingency and we stock it, so they win.
Title: Re: Engine Ice Vs Water Wetter
Post by: R1abuser on March 29, 2005, 12:18:50 PM
If I had to make a guess I would say that someone forgot to turn on the switch for the fans ?   ;D
Title: Re: Engine Ice Vs Water Wetter
Post by: Chuck on March 29, 2005, 12:21:37 PM
Well my last bike didn't have fans so I didn't think it was necesary, it was good to go once I left the fan on.  

It didn't over heat ON the track it was in the pit when I wasn't getting airflow.
Title: Re: Engine Ice Vs Water Wetter
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on March 29, 2005, 12:34:48 PM
Evans NPG all the way! The stuff is absolutely awesome and is allowed by CCS (let the argument begin! ;))

//www.evanscooling.com
Title: Re: Engine Ice Vs Water Wetter
Post by: Old808 on March 29, 2005, 01:25:07 PM
QuoteEvans NPG all the way! The stuff is absolutely awesome and is allowed by CCS (let the argument begin! ;))

//www.evanscooling.com
I second that.  Best overpriced product I ever bought.  :)
Title: Re: Engine Ice Vs Water Wetter
Post by: Chuck on March 29, 2005, 01:33:18 PM
QuoteI second that.  Best overpriced product I ever bought.  :)

doh...that's a little stingy.
Title: Re: Engine Ice Vs Water Wetter
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on March 29, 2005, 03:56:44 PM
Quotedoh...that's a little stingy.

     Well, it is like $25 a gallon, but you need how much for a bike? Just get a buddy to go in with you and buy 4 gallons, then you get like a $5 discount per gallon. It's a life time coolant, doesn't begin to boil till 370*, and it's a really cool purple color! ;D

     If you do buy some NPG (not NPG+) know ahead of time you can't have any water in your cooling system when you use this stuff or it doesn't do its job properly. You can drain your current stuff, flush it out like mad with water, then get as much of the water out as possible (air hose works great for this, insert in orifice of your choice!). You buy 1 sacrificial gallon to use as a flushing agent, fill the system with that, run the bike and vary the rpm's to get the temp up enough to open the thermostat and allow the NPG to mix with any water hiding in the system. Drain this as well as possible but keep this stuff for future flushing of your next race bike or a buddies (of course for a small nominal flushing fee, often times which is in the form of some alchohalic reimbursement ;)). Make sure you have a good thermostat, fill your system with the fresh stuff, and enjoy a bike that probably won't overheat again!
(Fans are optional now  :) )
Title: Re: Engine Ice Vs Water Wetter
Post by: stumpy on March 29, 2005, 04:13:35 PM
I had the same overheating problem as chuck, I used Evans too, was thinking about the water/water wetter combo but with the cold U.P temps I'd have to do it mid-season. I'm wondering if I didn't flush all the water out when I added Evans? I'll probably try Evans again, and see what happens.


Stumpy
Title: Re: Engine Ice Vs Water Wetter
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on March 29, 2005, 05:13:36 PM
That's the other advantage, you don't have to remove it in the winter like water. I remembered too late 1 year about the straight water in my 1st race bike, that ended up popping the freeze plugs. After that is when I switch to the Evans NPG.


Thread Jacking in progress:
remain calm and you'll get your thread back!

Hey Stumpy, what are you riding this year with that big #1 on it? I know you got a ride with a team, but what is the ride, the same as last season?
Title: Re: Engine Ice Vs Water Wetter
Post by: WebCrush on March 30, 2005, 11:01:40 AM
I use Maxima Cool-Aide.  Its REALLY legal for all club and pro use and does a great job as well
Title: Re: Engine Ice Vs Water Wetter
Post by: stumpy on March 30, 2005, 11:02:31 AM
 Stickin' with the ole' RR for now. Having MD Racing freshen it up, So hopefully it will be like new :)




Stumpy
Title: Re: Engine Ice Vs Water Wetter
Post by: MELK-MAN on March 30, 2005, 03:40:34 PM
Engine Ice!.. my bike runs cooler than water wetter by about 8-10deg.
Title: Re: Engine Ice Vs Water Wetter
Post by: badmonkey on March 31, 2005, 01:15:49 PM
engine ice in modded engine dropped 10 degrees over evans..
Title: Re: Engine Ice Vs Water Wetter
Post by: Spooner on April 01, 2005, 07:54:21 PM
Chuck-take out your fan!  It blocks airflow to a pretty large section of the radiator...plus that thing is heavy! ;D

-Nick