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Title: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Dawn on January 22, 2005, 06:11:57 AM
... higher than the front bumper!   ;D  

Then again I was going down hill.  I certainly hope that plow goes through before I get home from work or Paul will have to plow it with the tractor.   ;)

Dawn  
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 22, 2005, 06:34:17 AM
 ;D   I was wondering what the "country folk" do when it snows like this.   We have quite a bit ourselves, and the city should have the street plowed by next Friday.  >:(
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Dawn on January 22, 2005, 07:00:01 AM
You could always go out there and shovel......   ;D
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Dawn on January 22, 2005, 07:01:11 AM
Hey...

...  anyone want to come over and shovel off the roof?  I'll be sure to feed ya' when you're done.   ;)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 22, 2005, 07:17:38 AM
QuoteYou could always go out there and shovel......   ;D


No way.  I pay taxes for that truck to come clean my streets.  >:(

I am enjoying the fun of ghetto hopping in the new Jeep  8)

I'm flyin' around all over the place testing the AWD and the Hemi for quality control  ;D

I might just come over and help ya clean the roof Dawn.  Let's see if I can make it to your place from Detroit in 4 hours  ;D
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Dawn on January 22, 2005, 08:57:44 AM
We may be country folk.....

But we have the Ferarri of tractors   ;D

(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.puddingsworld.com%2FMachinery%2FSame_Trattori%2Fsame%2FSameImages%2FSaturno_brochure%2FSAME%2520SATURNO%252080%2520PAGE%25201.JPG&hash=13beb9b099b6734236a39b7c53bc84c12f4068f2)

Italian made....
Red...
Even the hood flips up like a real Ferarri...   ;D

Dawn   :D

(no that's not Paul on the tractor, it's just a picture I found on the net)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 22, 2005, 09:06:04 AM
 ;D  We got like 2 feet of snow so far, and it's still snowing and according to the radar pictures, it ain't going away any time soon.  Ooohhh, this is fun.  I've been 4 wheelin' all day.  The Jeep rocks in the snow.  I even stopped and help push a cop car out of a snow drift  8)   That should be good for one free "get out of speeding" ticket  ;D  Dumb ass cop got stuck in a drift while stopping to get a hat out of his trunk.  Dummy's  ;D
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 22, 2005, 09:07:23 AM
QuoteWe may be country folk.....

But we have the Ferarri of tractors   ;D

(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.puddingsworld.com%2FMachinery%2FSame_Trattori%2Fsame%2FSameImages%2FSaturno_brochure%2FSAME%2520SATURNO%252080%2520PAGE%25201.JPG&hash=13beb9b099b6734236a39b7c53bc84c12f4068f2)

Italian made....
Red...
Even the hood flips up like a real Ferarri...   ;D

Dawn   :D

(no that's not Paul on the tractor, it's just a picture I found on the net)


Does he wear a helmet on that thing  ???

 ;D :P
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 22, 2005, 09:08:28 AM
 ;D


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Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: EX#996 on January 22, 2005, 03:10:50 PM
Well, I offered, but no one showed up!

I ended up shoveling the roof when Paul was plowing the barn driveway.  

You would have had stuffed chicken breast with mushroom and wild rice, a large salad and lemon sherbert for desert.

 ;)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on January 22, 2005, 03:50:34 PM
QuoteI might just come over and help ya clean the roof Dawn.  Let's see if I can make it to your place from Detroit in 4 hours  ;D
Try going straight across the lake.
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on January 22, 2005, 07:13:57 PM
QuoteTry going straight across the lake.

Was that a subtle way of saying go jump in a lake? ;) ;D
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 22, 2005, 08:25:37 PM
QuoteTry going straight across the lake.


I was thinking the same  8)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 22, 2005, 08:25:57 PM
QuoteWas that a subtle way of saying go jump in a lake? ;) ;D


Too cold.  ;D
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on January 23, 2005, 01:58:22 AM
 8)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 23, 2005, 08:33:07 AM
I wanna drive one of them tractors  8)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Super Dave on January 25, 2005, 05:21:50 AM
Sorry, that's for "country folks"...

Is that like a red state/blue state issue?
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Super Dave on January 25, 2005, 05:23:56 AM
Wait, Dan, you're moving to Florida?

That's like totally hillbilly/redneck land mixed with lots of old people.

Lots of country livin' down 'der...

Just be carful of 'dem 'gaters...

 8)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 25, 2005, 06:31:14 AM
Dan don't like gator's.  I was scared of going into the pond at Jennings so me and Death argued if she'd kill some for me.   8)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Super Dave on January 25, 2005, 01:27:03 PM
You're gonna have problems in Florida... :o
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 25, 2005, 01:40:55 PM
nah... we'll just stay away from each other and no problems  ;)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Super Dave on January 27, 2005, 02:23:03 AM
Right...

But gators don't see real well.  So, they'll come check you out for a meal before you know it.
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 04:52:39 AM
Then it'll get to meet Mr. Heckler and Mr. Koch, along with they're friend Mr. Silver Tip Hollowpoint :)

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Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Super Dave on January 27, 2005, 06:29:50 AM
Such a little gun...

Mossberg is probably the way to go.  You don't want to make those things mad.  A twelve gauge would be much better.  
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: spyderchick on January 27, 2005, 06:46:20 AM
QuoteSuch a little gun...

Mossberg is probably the way to go.  You don't want to make those things mad.  A twelve gauge would be much better.  


But Dan likes making dangerous critters mad, that why he learned to run so well.  :o ;)

(did I use my "out loud" keyboard)?  :o :o :o :o :o ;D
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 07:10:55 AM
Bah.    Hollowpoint goes in and makes a one inch hole, and on the way out makes an 8 inch hole  :-/
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Dawn on January 27, 2005, 08:02:18 AM
Now this is a 'gator gun....

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Paul has one with the 8-3/8" barrel with a holosight.  He shot two deer with it, but the amount of damage it caused was too much and then went back to the trusty 7mm .08.

 :)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 27, 2005, 08:54:37 AM
I LOVE the 7mm-08 cartridge!  Nearly the ballistic characteristics of a .308; a short throw round; and the wide versitility found in 7mm bullets to choose from when reloading.

That 454 Casull is a handfull alright.  While it may be just a hari bigger than a .45 ACP or smaller than the .50 caliber that some muzzleloaders use, it's a damned fast round.  Out of curiosity, what type bullet was Paul using?

Dan, I realize you're probably just spouting off in jest, but Super D is absolutely correct.  Studies have shown [that phrase always lends an air of authority to an argument, don't you think? ;)   But in this case it's true] that it isn't so much the size of a wound that stops or kills a target, it's the amount of blood lost or the hitting of the CNS.

You'd be better off with a 12 guage and 0, 00 or buck shot.  Unless you cycle through over 1,000 rds per week, I rather doubt that you'll readily place your shots when up against an aggressive target in a time of crisis.

Then again, you can always go with my idea of the perfect personal defense weapon.  A grenade. 8)
Easy to operate; nearly fool-proof (just don't milk the spoon if you're gonna hold on to it after pulling the pin - 'cause you saw some idiot do this in a movie.  Pull pin, then release - unless you're setting up a booby-trap. But I digress) and you get instant attention and RESPECT ;D.  From everyone w/in 10 meters ;)  
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Dawn on January 27, 2005, 09:03:26 AM
QuoteI LOVE the 7mm-08 cartridge!  Nearly the ballistic characteristics of a .308; a short throw round; and the wide versitility found in 7mm bullets to choose from when reloading.

That 454 Casull is a handfull alright.  While it may be just a hari bigger than a .45 ACP or smaller than the .50 caliber that some muzzleloaders use, it's a damned fast round.  Out of curiosity, what type bullet was Paul using?



Paul chose the 7mm-08 cartridge fro the exact reasons you listed above (he does his own reloading).  As far as what type of bullet he was using on the .454.....  I don't know, I'll have to look when I get home.  I think I know, but I may be confusing that with the .45 Colt.

Dawn  
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 09:06:49 AM
Don't know all about ballistics.  I just know that if a crack head breaks into my house, my HK is gonna make sure he doesn't walk out in one piece.  I bought some of those "Aftershock" bullets, and I have no clue how effective they are. I go to Double Action on Dequindre for practice, but I can't use those bullets at the range.  I wonder how good they work...  :-/   All I know is that a .40 cal leaves a ton of damage  :)  If I'm pulling the trigger to shoot someone, then my intention is to kill.  Wounding them just makes more questions arise.  Thank god I've never come close to even needing it.  It'll stay in the safe with a trigger lock on it until I need it.  Last time I carried it was the "Big Blackout."  I have a CCW, but I can't think a reason I need to carry.  Plus, I don't like how cops approach when they run your plate while pulling you over and see the "CCW flag."  They're over-cautious which is more than understandable.  I would be too.  
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Dawn on January 27, 2005, 09:15:27 AM
Quote.  It'll stay in the safe with a trigger lock on it until I need it.    

... but if you have it for home protection, how long will it take you to get it out of the safe and the trigger lock off before the prowler is at your bedroom door?

 ???
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 09:24:47 AM
How long can he fight a 72 lb. Pit Bull trained to go for his neck the minute he comes thru the window or door  ??? That's why I spent all the money on training the dog.  The crack head better have a gun or a lead pipe.  If he doesn't, he's SOL.  I won't need the gun if the dog gets ahold of him.  

But, to answer your question, about 3 minutes to get the gun out of the safe and the trigger lock off.  There's one already in the chamber so she's ready to go.

Plus, most crooks are smart enough not to involve a gun in their crime from what I've seen.  Having a gun in the commision of a felony in Michigan will get you a mandatory 5 years in prison, that is run consecutive to the sentce for the felony.  In Michigan:

1st Degree Home Invasion = up to 20 years
+ firearm = Mandatory 5 minimum no good time

Lets say he get's 1-20 yrs for Home Invasion.  Add a mandatory 5 on top of it.  So, 6 years in prision at the very minimum if they break into a house with someone home (1st degree) and up to 25 yrs. total.  Like I said, most Home Invasions don't have a gun involved by the crook.  Atleast that's what they taught us in CCW class  :-/
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 27, 2005, 09:26:24 AM
Man Dan, yet another area you're a little scary.

1.  For you and everyone else who uses a firearm for home defense.  DO NOT use hot rounds!  Chances are you'll be engaging your target in CQB (i.e., within 4 meters).  SOme of your rounds may miss.  They WILL go through your drywall.  How many among us have marked out free fire zones in our homes?  I know I haven't.  This sin't like hunting where you can take time to be sure you have a pretty safe field behind the target.  At that moment of crisis, I don't think you'll be thinking of what (electrical panel, gas line) or who may be in the next room.  Use Glazers (TM).  Much safer and in all the popular sizes.  There's a .40 S&W just calling your name Dan.

2.  If a real "crackhead" did enter your home.  It ain't like in the movies.  Unless your really good at the ole double tap and one (preferrably both) of those rounds hits the brain or spine, that guys still gonna be on ya.  Why do you think you hear and read about so many stories of cops or troopers hitting a perp 5 or moe times?  Believe me, it's the loss of blood that stops.

We could take this off-line and talk things like wound cavity size, vital organs hit and other really interesting things of the trade.  Just don't think that your weekly practice (which is admirable and much more than the average gun owner) will equate to practice under stress and/or low light situations.  I just don't think you're just gonna smoothly remove your gun lock (another topic for discussion) and engage the target calmly and halt his advance with a shot or two of your .45 compromise weapon.
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: StumpysWife on January 27, 2005, 09:34:53 AM
So, um, yeah.

My CRV goes good through the snow, too.




Heather   ;D
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 09:37:56 AM
 :o  I actually agree with you for once  :o  You're right, I have never thought about gas lines, ect.  But, here's my point of view.  Let's say the crack head breaks in, and kills the dog.  At that point, I'm unloading the whole damn clip on his ass.  I'm not a perfect shot, but I can get close enough where if I put 6 shots in your chest, I"m sure you'll hit the ground.  Then, after a few shots in the chest, I'm aiming for the head.   Now, not saying that under stressfull conditions it'll work and I"ll hit the mark, but I'll sure as hell do my best.  But, I can guarantee one thing.  I'm unloading the whole clip, even after he hits the ground.  Right or wrong, I don't give a damn.  Even after he's dead I'm still pulling the trigger.   Someone breaks into my house, and kills a trained protection dog, has no other intention than taking my life just as quick.  Therefore, all bets are off.  Screw what the law says.  They wanna prosecute, I'd be more than happy to take it to trail, and let a jury convict me.  I don't think they would.  Especially after he killed a professionally trained protection dog.  :-/

Regardless, I feel sorry for the poor bastard that breaks into my house...  The minute he comes thru my window, I decide if he lives or dies.  
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 09:42:58 AM
QuoteSo, um, yeah.

My CRV goes good through the snow, too.




Heather   ;D


CRV= Chicks Car

Where you're at, you guys need Excursions with a plow on the front  8)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 09:46:55 AM
One thing that worries me, is that the wife refuses to take training to use a gun.  She won't go anywhere near it, and hates that I have it.  It's in the safe with a trigger lock because that's what makes her feel safe about having a gun in the house.  I don't like that she's scared of it, and doesn't know how to use it.  I asked her what she'll do if it happens and I'm away on business.  Her response: CALL 911  ::)   She's one of those people that put all her faith in the "system" and in cops.   :-/   Not me.  I'll cover my own ass should it need to be covered.  I'm not waiting for some cop to show up.
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Dawn on January 27, 2005, 09:48:50 AM
QuoteSo, um, yeah.

My CRV goes good through the snow, too.




Heather   ;D

LOL!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: StumpysWife on January 27, 2005, 09:51:58 AM
QuoteCRV= Chicks Car

Where you're at, you guys need Excursions with a plow on the front  8)

Yup, I'm a chick.  

Excursions are gross.   :P  We get a ton of snow and I think Hummers are silly here, let alone a giant bus of a station wagon that beeps when backing up!  No thanks.  

My chick car rocks, thank you very much!
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 09:52:23 AM
Hey Dawn, if I'm ever in the neighborhood, can I come drive that tractor ya'll got  8)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 27, 2005, 09:54:20 AM
QuoteRegardless, I feel sorry for the poor bastard that breaks into my house...  The minute he comes thru my window, I decide if he lives or dies.  

Sigh  Here's to hoping that's mostly bluster and hyperbole.  You live in Michigan.  A very liberal state.  A friggin' blue state fer cryin' out loud ;).  They're gonna prosecute you.  I can easily poke holes in what you've argued so far.  Remember, because someone's out to deny you of property, DOES NOT allow you the right to deny them of their life.  In liberal states anyway ;D

There are ways of protecting yourself, your loved ones and your property using force.  It's just like knowing how to react to a street attack or a fire at home.  You just need to think about it, do your homework AHEAD of time.  
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 27, 2005, 09:57:56 AM
I don't think you've thought much of this out too well Dan.  That or you're just making stuff up... naaa... it wouldn't be that.

If I understand you correctly, you keep a gun in a sierra hotel/one in the pipe condition, yet you have a trigger lock on it?  And it's in a gun safe?  And the damned safe is in your bedroom?

I gotta go lie down and try not think of this any more.
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 09:59:17 AM
To hell with the state.   Don't care.   I'd be more than happy to do life in prison if it meant that my wife and child are safe.   I don't care what the prosecutor, or the state has to say about it.  Let someone come try and harm my family and you'll see Dan on the 11:00 news.  

Headline: Homeowner shoots burglary suspect 10 times in the chest.

I could care less about the property.  It's when he tries to harm the family is where the gloves come off and so does the saftey.  If he broke in trying to just steal the TV for instance, I'd just point my gun at him and call the cops if the dog hasn't gotten him or he hurt the dog.    If he tries to harm me or my family, the only reason I"m calling the cops is for them to notify the corner.  ;)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: StumpysWife on January 27, 2005, 10:01:33 AM
Do like Stumpy did when a coked up guy tried going through our deadbolted, yet glass, back door--grab your wife's most expensive candle to crack him over the head.  Don't go for the cheapy, go for one in the glass jar--nice and heavy.    

I went for the big chef knife, but the 991 operator (who realized in the middle of the melee that he went to high school with Stumpy) told me I had to put it back in the drawer.  


That's a great story.
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 10:06:11 AM
QuoteI don't think you've thought much of this out too well Dan.  That or you're just making stuff up... naaa... it wouldn't be that.

If I understand you correctly, you keep a gun in a sierra hotel/one in the pipe condition, yet you have a trigger lock on it?  And it's in a gun safe?  And the damned safe is in your bedroom?

I gotta go lie down and try not think of this any more.


I have a full blown safe in the house.  The gun has one of those full trigger locks that covers the whole trigger, ect.   I keep one in the chamber.  

What's so hard to figure out  ???  If I had it my way, it would be in the nightstand with no trigger lock, but the wife won't have that.  So, I do what I can to passify her.  That's all.   Again, I hope the situation never arises.  I'm not planning on getting robbed, or attacked.  I mind my own and do whatever.  I don't carry unless there's a reason, so if it happens out of the house, there's nothing I can do than use my fists.  You have to remember that my dog is trained, and if she don't know you, your gonna lose a piece of your ass.  Especially if we're not around.  I got the dog as the first line of protection.  The gun is 2nd.  The dog barks, and will notify us if anyone is around.  Hell, she barks if someone pulls in the driveway.  If she hears someone coming thru a window, she is trained to attack with no question.  If the crook isn't armed, he doesn't stand much of a chance against the dog.  Don't care how big they are.  Dog goes right for the throat if she feels a threat. First she tries to "corner" the suspect.  If the suspect advances, she's go after them.  Get the throat and hold.  Only squeeze if they resist.  It works too.   :)  My dog doesn't play games when she's feeling threatened or doesn't know the person.  For instance H, if you came over to my house, and walked in, my dog would be on you until I tell her it's ok.  From that point forward, as long as you don't touch the kid, she has no problem with you.  But, if you come thru my window, even if she knows you, you're gonna have a problem.
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 10:08:11 AM
QuoteDo like Stumpy did when a coked up guy tried going through our deadbolted, yet glass, back door--grab your wife's most expensive candle to crack him over the head.  Don't go for the cheapy, go for one in the glass jar--nice and heavy.    

I went for the big chef knife, but the 991 operator (who realized in the middle of the melee that he went to high school with Stumpy) told me I had to put it back in the drawer.  


That's a great story.


Oh, so what you're saying is that there IS a justifible reason to spend $ on the "Good" candles because they not only burn (your money away) but also protect.   I get it.  ;D  

If it were my house, he'd either be missing part of his ass which will be hanging out of my dogs mouth, or he'd be in a cemetary.  No need to call 911 until afterwards  ;)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: TZDeSioux on January 27, 2005, 10:12:45 AM
QuoteI have a full blown safe in the house.  The gun has one of those full trigger locks that covers the whole trigger, ect.   I keep one in the chamber.  

What's so hard to figure out  ???  If I had it my way, it would be in the nightstand with no trigger lock, but the wife won't have that.  So, I do what I can to passify her.  That's all.   Again, I hope the situation never arises.  I'm not planning on getting robbed, or attacked.  I mind my own and do whatever.  I don't carry unless there's a reason, so if it happens out of the house, there's nothing I can do than use my fists.  You have to remember that my dog is trained, and if she don't know you, your gonna lose a piece of your ass.  Especially if we're not around.  I got the dog as the first line of protection.  The gun is 2nd.  The dog barks, and will notify us if anyone is around.  Hell, she barks if someone pulls in the driveway.  If she hears someone coming thru a window, she is trained to attack with no question.  If the crook isn't armed, he doesn't stand much of a chance against the dog.  Don't care how big they are.  Dog goes right for the throat if she feels a threat. First she tries to "corner" the suspect.  If the suspect advances, she's go after them.  Get the throat and hold.  Only squeeze if they resist.  It works too.   :)  My dog doesn't play games when she's feeling threatened or doesn't know the person.  For instance H, if you came over to my house, and walked in, my dog would be on you until I tell her it's ok.  From that point forward, as long as you don't touch the kid, she has no problem with you.  But, if you come thru my window, even if she knows you, you're gonna have a problem.

I'll break into your house and cook your viscious little corgie and eat it.
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 27, 2005, 11:25:36 AM
QuoteTo hell with the state.   Don't care.   I'd be more than happy to do life in prison if it meant that my wife and child are safe.   I don't care what the prosecutor, or the state has to say about it.  Let someone come try and harm my family and you'll see Dan on the 11:00 news.  

Headline: Homeowner shoots burglary suspect 10 times in the chest.

I could care less about the property.  It's when he tries to harm the family is where the gloves come off and so does the saftey.  If he broke in trying to just steal the TV for instance, I'd just point my gun at him and call the cops if the dog hasn't gotten him or he hurt the dog.    If he tries to harm me or my family, the only reason I"m calling the cops is for them to notify the corner.  ;)

Okay.  Now I'm on your wavelength.  You really don't care about a serious discussion.  You're babbling... er... writing part just for shock value and part our of machismo.

If you even want to pretend to be an operator Dan, ya gotta think before you act.  Just don't take forever figuring out your op pln.
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 11:40:23 AM
I am having a serious discussion.  You want me to tell you exactly how I"m going to react to a situation that I have never dealt with, and one that I hope I never do deal with.  For all I know, if it really happened, I might end up in a ball on the floor begging for my life crying like a little girl.  Who knows.  I'm telling you what I intend to do.  What actually happens is another story.  Nobody knows until it happens.

Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Thorny on January 27, 2005, 11:50:42 AM
You idiots remember what Dawn started this topic about? She was so bored, probably @ work and decided to actually 2 write about how her S.U.V. makes through the snow, big suprise to all.
 Most you guys would crap yourself if some crack head busts in your home. PERIOD so stop talking like a bunch of retards.
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 27, 2005, 11:51:57 AM
QuoteI am having a serious discussion.  You want me to tell you exactly how I"m going to react to a situation that I have never dealt with, and one that I hope I never do deal with.  For all I know, if it really happened, I might end up in a ball on the floor begging for my life crying like a little girl.  Who knows.  I'm telling you what I intend to do.  What actually happens is another story.  Nobody knows until it happens.

So you're saying there's no sense in coming up with an escape plan from each part of the house and determining a meeting place so you'll readily know whether everyone has made it out safely in the case of a fire, because you'd be planning the reaction to a situation that you've never dealt with?


Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 27, 2005, 11:53:15 AM
QuoteMost you guys would crap yourself if some crack head busts in your home. PERIOD so stop talking like a bunch of retards.

Maybe true of most.  But not this little H.
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Post by: H-man on January 27, 2005, 11:54:04 AM
QuoteI'll break into your house and cook your viscious little corgie and eat it.

Now that is some funny sh@t!
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 11:54:47 AM
Who said anything about a fire  ???  Did I miss something  ???  I"m talking about a crack head breaking into my house with my family inside.

For a fire, our plan is to get the hell out, and meet in the driveway.  Our bedroom has a doorwall, and the kids room is accross the hall.  Open the doorwall and run like hell.  The house has smoke and carbon monoxide detectors.
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 11:59:14 AM
QuoteMost you guys would crap yourself if some crack head busts in your home. PERIOD so stop talking like a bunch of retards.

No I wouldn't.  Not a crack head.  You do realize that I have a professionally trained protection dog right?  That's why I got the dog.  I'll bring her to the racetrack one time so everyone can meet her  :)   Then Reverend can attempt to "eat her."  ;)  She's friendly unless told otherwise.  I could have her in our pit area, and she wouldn't bother a soul.   :)

Infact, H, wanna meet with us tonight at Eurocycles?  I'll bring the dog too  :D  She comes along occasionally to hang out   8)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: TZDeSioux on January 27, 2005, 12:36:27 PM
crackheads can run really fast.
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: 03R6-Rider on January 27, 2005, 12:41:25 PM
QuoteBut, to answer your question, about 3 minutes to get the gun out of the safe and the trigger lock off.  There's one already in the chamber so she's ready to go.
3 Minutes is an eternity in an honest-to-goodness hostile situation.  Keeping a weapon in the home for self defense is a commitment to take all aspects into consideration - IMHO.  Comments like 'I'm emptying a clip in his booty' make me shudder at the thought that you have a family that lives in the home with you under these conditions.  Unless you've received tactical training under stress conditions you are a danger to yourself and your family in my opinion.  

Good luck getting the trigger lock off without shooting yourself if you do in fact have a trigger-locked weapon stored in condition zero, or even condition one for that matter.  

QuotePlus, most crooks are smart enough not to involve a gun in their crime from what I've seen
If you're talking 'crackhead,' smart is not part of the program.  I have known a few and can assure you of this fact.  

This is an area that is truly serious, not one for bravado and big talk.  You owe it to yourself and your family to actively train regularly if you have an honest intent to use a firearm for self defense.  
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Dawn on January 27, 2005, 01:02:05 PM
QuoteYou idiots remember what Dawn started this topic about? She was so bored, probably @ work and decided to actually 2 write about how her S.U.V. makes through the snow, big suprise to all.
  

Actually it's a 91 Buick Park Avenue....

... NOT exactly an SUV.   ;D
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 27, 2005, 01:24:50 PM
QuoteActually it's a 91 Buick Park Avenue....

... NOT exactly and SUV.   ;D

That's a pretty plushy ride.  Designed to resemble the lines of the Jaguars of the day.
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Dawn on January 27, 2005, 01:44:28 PM
QuoteThat's a pretty plushy ride.  Designed to resemble the lines of the Jaguars of the day.


Now that you say that I can see it....

However mine's a little wavy now that bambi decided to run into the side of it this past Tuesday.  (the stupid little bugger).   :-/

 ;)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on January 27, 2005, 02:04:08 PM
Three AM.  I awake to the sound of my side door window shattering.  We didn't have a dog then.
I'm on the second floor, but even dead asleep, I know EXACTLY where that sound came from, and what it means.  I roll out of bed, scooping up my Winchester model 1300 as my feet hit the floor.  The sound that wakes my wife is a 00 buckshot magnum shell racking into the chamber.
I'm on one knee in the bedroom door, the gun's bead floating squarely over its barrel.  I won't be shooting high, like most do in a panic.  The curtains on the stairway landing are glowing white from the security light outside.  Anyone who steps onto that landing will be a perfect sillouette target.  I'm completely calm and alert, poised for action, just like when the one board goes sideways.  My wife is the only other person who should be in the house, and I know exactly where she is.  She's hiding in the closet behind me, frantically calling 911.
In the still night, I can hear V8 interceptors hauling @$$ from every direction.  The cops arrive like a squad of marines.  They can find no forced entry.  
I go downstairs and let them in.  Am I nuts?  Nope.  Four feet from the side door, a large mirror has pulled it's mounting nail from the plaster and shattered on the floor.
At least now I know how I'll react if it ever happens for real....
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Dawn on January 27, 2005, 02:08:45 PM
QuoteIn the still night, I can hear V8 interceptors hauling @$$ from every direction.  The cops arrive like a squad of marines.  They can find no forced entry.  
I go downstairs and let them in.  Am I nuts?  Nope.  Four feet from the side door, a large mirror has pulled it's mounting nail from the plaster and shattered on the floor.
At least now I know how I'll react if it ever happens for real....


LOL!!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 04:59:15 PM
QuoteThree AM.  I awake to the sound of my side door window shattering.  We didn't have a dog then.
I'm on the second floor, but even dead asleep, I know EXACTLY where that sound came from, and what it means.  I roll out of bed, scooping up my Winchester model 1300 as my feet hit the floor.  The sound that wakes my wife is a 00 buckshot magnum shell racking into the chamber.
I'm on one knee in the bedroom door, the gun's bead floating squarely over its barrel.  I won't be shooting high, like most do in a panic.  The curtains on the stairway landing are glowing white from the security light outside.  Anyone who steps onto that landing will be a perfect sillouette target.  I'm completely calm and alert, poised for action, just like when the one board goes sideways.  My wife is the only other person who should be in the house, and I know exactly where she is.  She's hiding in the closet behind me, frantically calling 911.
In the still night, I can hear V8 interceptors hauling @$$ from every direction.  The cops arrive like a squad of marines.  They can find no forced entry.  
I go downstairs and let them in.  Am I nuts?  Nope.  Four feet from the side door, a large mirror has pulled it's mounting nail from the plaster and shattered on the floor.
At least now I know how I'll react if it ever happens for real....


I'm with you.  I think having the shotgun out and ready for action is the right move.  
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 05:00:19 PM
QuoteT
In the still night, I can hear V8 interceptors hauling @$$ from every direction.  

You can hear the lifters tick and the rod knock from that far away  ???  Damn, you got good ears  ;D

 :P
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: EX#996 on January 27, 2005, 05:04:10 PM
QuoteI LOVE the 7mm-08 cartridge!  Nearly the ballistic characteristics of a .308; a short throw round; and the wide versitility found in 7mm bullets to choose from when reloading.

That 454 Casull is a handfull alright.  While it may be just a hari bigger than a .45 ACP or smaller than the .50 caliber that some muzzleloaders use, it's a damned fast round.  Out of curiosity, what type bullet was Paul using?


For the 7mm - - Nosler Ballistic Tip 140 grain

For the 454 - - Nosler Partition-HG 260 grain hollow point.

The number of grains that he uses depends on the application.

 :)

< How's this for being a back woods redneck....  I just got myself one of those fancy dancy meat ginders.  It even has a heavy duty motor.  No more hand cranking for me  ;D  >

No Dan, you can't drive the tractor.   ;)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 05:14:44 PM
QuoteNo Dan, you can't drive the tractor.   ;)

Ah common  :'(   Tell your hubby I'll let him race one of my bikes if I can drive the tractor  ;D  Just one race though  ;D  There's an idea, hook a mower up to that sucker, and while he's racing my bike, I'll cut the grass on the infield of the track  8)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 27, 2005, 05:15:52 PM
QuoteFor the 7mm - - Nosler Ballistic Tip 140 grain

For the 454 - - Nosler Partition-HG 260 grain hollow point.

The number of grains that he uses depends on the application.

 :)


Which one do you pick when a crack head breaks into your house  ???  Do you guys even have crackheads in B.F.E Wisconsin  ???  How about Hood Rats  ???  Got any of them  ???

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 27, 2005, 07:01:51 PM
My man Paul!  That's EXACTLY the bullet I use.  Whether Federal factory rounds with the Nosler 140 gr. ballistic tip or in Nosler's box of 50 to load 'em as I want.

It's a wonder Paul didn't vaporize that ole deer.  260 gr. partition round?!  I didn't even know they made the partition round for handguns.

Well, it's a good thing he fired that bad boy out of a 8-1/2 inch barrel!  He'd have probably seen flames shooting out the muzzle if he had a 5 or 6- incher.  Hope that deer was a ways off too [LOL]
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 27, 2005, 07:07:48 PM
spoon
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Post by: H-man on January 27, 2005, 07:10:01 PM
That's some wierd sh#t.  Why on earth is "spoon", you know that utensil you use to eat soup or the lever on a grenade, edited by the automatic censor?
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 27, 2005, 07:10:53 PM
tang  poontang
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 27, 2005, 07:12:37 PM
Oh.  I think I got it now :-[ :o :-X ;)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on January 28, 2005, 02:23:43 AM
Slang term for female reproductive area.  Rhymes with "COON"
H, I luv yew, man! ;)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 28, 2005, 04:07:20 AM
 ;D ;D Yeah, I've heard that term before.  That's why I tested it with "tang".

I just find it so funny when the editor alters the middle of words.  So I guess the classic book Moby Dick is out.  And Captain Ahab reaching for a harpoon to get the whale is a no-no too.  ;D  :-/
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 28, 2005, 04:09:02 AM
LOL.  This thing is too much!  I'm just cracking myself up here.  Simple pleasures I guess.
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Super Dave on January 28, 2005, 04:19:09 AM
QuoteThen it'll get to meet Mr. Heckler and Mr. Koch, along with they're friend Mr. Silver Tip Hollowpoint :)

(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hecklerkoch-usa.com%2Fimages%2Fhandguns%2Fuspcompact.jpg&hash=b797f2b1e943893b27d714aee79262c77eec44ce)

Pistols....

Chicks guns...

In the early 1900's, US forces found that smaller rounds didn't stop doped up locals in the Philipines.  The .45 was developed because a round that big and that slow knocked the other person down.

Home defense...

Ask a police officer about an intimidating sound...

pumping your shotgun to load a shell...

You don't have to aim, you just point in the right direction.  

With a little NCO time under my belt, we always recognized that we, the NCO's actually had fire power to use (I carried an M203 also) and the officers had the "girlie weapons".  

Get a nice double barrel shotgun and saw it off if you like.  Nothing like a blunderbuss to do the job right the first time.
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 28, 2005, 04:26:16 AM
No joke about the M203!  I love the M9, God's gift to mobile land troops.  It's a belt fed grenade launcher.  Firing the same 20mm grenade down range.  Raining all sorts of hate and discontent on Ts and other assorted bad guys.

That and a .50 cal mounted on a buggy and guys are off into Indian territory.
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Super Dave on January 28, 2005, 04:37:00 AM
Ah, the M2...

Not for use on personel...

But can be used against webgear, buttons, boots, and uniforms...

Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: spyderchick on January 28, 2005, 05:05:55 AM
QuoteLOL.  This thing is too much!  I'm just cracking myself up here.  Simple pleasures I guess.


This is why men should not be given small objects that fire projectiles... :o ;) ;D
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: EX#996 on January 28, 2005, 05:28:00 AM
QuoteMy man Paul!  That's EXACTLY the bullet I use.  Whether Federal factory rounds with the Nosler 140 gr. ballistic tip or in Nosler's box of 50 to load 'em as I want.

It's a wonder Paul didn't vaporize that ole deer.  260 gr. partition round?!  I didn't even know they made the partition round for handguns.

Well, it's a good thing he fired that bad boy out of a 8-1/2 inch barrel!  He'd have probably seen flames shooting out the muzzle if he had a 5 or 6- incher.  Hope that deer was a ways off too [LOL]

The first deer with the .454 was a head on shot and Paul nailed him in the chest between the front shoulders a little off to the left.  It blew the deer over backwards and ended up ruining both front quarters.  Learning from that experience, the next deer he took was a broadside shot in the rib cage.  The impact of the bullet ruined some of the back straps.  This is just way too much gun for deer hunting.

The 7mm puts a nice little hole in the deer but has enough umph to drop them, usually where they stand.

Both of Paul's deer hunting pistols shoot flames like you wouldn't believe.  This past season I saw a big 'ol doe run past the bedroom window towards the hollow.  Knowing that she would go through the hollow past Paul's stand, I took a look out the kitchen window to see if Paul would notice.  As I'm watching Paul, I saw him aim and then a huge flash of light, just like one of those old fashioned flash cameras, and then I heard the "boom"   :)  Little did I know that I missed seeing the buck that was running in front of her.

Dawn   ;)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: EX#996 on January 28, 2005, 05:29:54 AM
QuoteThis is why men should not be given small objects that fire projectiles... :o ;) ;D

LOL!!!!

It's words of wisdom like this that reminds me why I love you so much.

Dawn   ;)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 28, 2005, 05:47:25 AM
QuoteThis is why men should not be given small objects that fire projectiles... :o ;) ;D

Right then.

We ought to each be issued howitzers, dragon and TOW rocket launchers and the sort.  

Personally, I think it'd be great to have a 20mm Gatling cannon (the type gun on a F-14 Tomcat) mounted to the front of my truck. :D 8)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: EX#996 on January 28, 2005, 05:51:13 AM
QuotePersonally, I think it'd be great to have a 20mm Gatling cannon (the type gun on a F-14 Tomcat) mounted to the front of my truck. :D 8)

LOL!!!

Have remote controls right on the steering wheel.   :D

I bet that slow poke driving in the left hand lane on the highway would do everything possible to get out of your way if they saw that in their rearview mirror.

 ;)
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Post by: H-man on January 28, 2005, 06:05:23 AM
QuoteLOL!!!

Have remote controls right on the steering wheel.   :D

I bet that slow poke driving in the left hand lane on the highway would do everything possible to get out of your way if they saw that in their rearview mirror.

 ;)

EXACTLY!  ;D  Just add some depleted uranium rds to cut through any thickness of metal and I'm in business.  A HUD would be brilliant too

You know just how I think  That Paul is a lucky guy.:-*
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: cornercamping on January 28, 2005, 06:11:37 AM
Are sawed of shotguns legal  ???  

Sawed of Remington 1187 with a pistol grip pump  8)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 28, 2005, 06:18:53 AM
You're a computer and car guy Dan, so I'll give you a pass on this one.  But for future reference, the Remington 11-87 and 1100 are semi-auto shotguns.  The pump model is the Remington 870. ;)  
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Post by: cornercamping on January 28, 2005, 06:28:59 AM
 ;D  Thanks.   My dad has an 1187 that I've never been able to play with.  He won't let me touch it.   Haven't seen the thing in like 11 years.

So, are sawed off's legal  ???
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: TZDeSioux on January 28, 2005, 07:07:40 AM
QuoteAh, the M2...

Not for use on personel...

But can be used against webgear, buttons, boots, and uniforms...


pffffff... M2  ::)  it's 2005... get an E46 M3 instead pal!  ;)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: EX#996 on January 28, 2005, 07:08:18 AM
QuoteSo, are sawed off's legal  ???

Until you get caught with them....

There is no legal reason that I can think of for any person to have a sawed off shotgun.

Dawn
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: Super Dave on January 28, 2005, 07:14:41 AM
I know in Nebraska you could be down to 18?



I'm partial to A10's...


Is that like the H1 Kawasaki of airplanes?


M2?  Bring the M3, M5...let's see what happens?

(The Penguin-Kwak, kwaaaaak, kwak...)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: TZDeSioux on January 28, 2005, 07:26:41 AM
Quote(The Penguin-Kwak, kwaaaaak, kwak...)

kwak kwaaaaaaak kwak kwak

(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.patfullerton.com%2Fbatman%2Fpix%2Fpenguin%2Fpenguin1966-meredith.jpg&hash=3bfe9685acbad0eeb7d5b7488b78628d78b5e30f)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 28, 2005, 07:30:20 AM
Yeah, Federal law mandates that a shotgun barrel must be at least 18" (26" overall length) and a rifle barrel must be at least 16" (26" overall length).

A10?  You mean the A-10 Warthog?  [LOL] Good choice.  That'll whip that ole BMW M3 any day  ;D

A C-130 Spectre (Puff the magic dragon) wouldn't be so bad either ;)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: 03R6-Rider on January 28, 2005, 08:01:07 AM
An A-10 at full AOA pumping out that familiar "brRRRpp" is an ugly aircraft with oddly heartwarming qualities...   ;)
Title: Re: The 'ol land yacht can go through snow...
Post by: H-man on January 28, 2005, 08:34:42 AM
Ya know, those guys who drive the fast moving air breathers would say the A-10 is slow and ugly.  I disagree on both parts.

And I agree whole-heartedly about the comforting "farting in the sky" sound.  Well to me and my team it sounded like farts.  Could have just been petulant field humor ;D