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Racing Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: njracer1 on January 18, 2005, 11:58:18 AM

Title: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: njracer1 on January 18, 2005, 11:58:18 AM
Since we have 2 dates scheduled for 2005 do we know if there has been any changes to the "track of death"???  Is armco being moved so in case we decide to run off the track and check out the hot girl in the bikini we dont die hitting da big bad scary not friendly armco? ???

nj
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: njracer1 on January 18, 2005, 10:06:54 PM
I guess I'll be racing da CRF fiddy to avoid DEATH!!!

nj
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: davegsxrold929r on January 19, 2005, 06:07:22 AM
QuoteI guess I'll be racing da CRF fiddy to avoid DEATH!!!

nj


i do not think you are much better on the 50y
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: castle228 on January 19, 2005, 05:20:21 PM
I haven't heard any updates to the new circuit recently.

I do know there were a select few racers that went out late last season to do some "test laps"and he just happened to have an onboard camera. I think I recall the top speed being 120mph, even then it was just for a brief moment. It's a very VERY technical track with average speeds being somewhere in the area of 45mph - 65mph.

The first race weekend at Summit is scheduled for April, so I'm sure more people will be chiming in with their opinions once they check out the progress.

I am not a racer, nor do I represent Summit Point. Good luck to one and all if bike races are held on this circuit. You can rest asure though, MARRC will be there to help you out....in case you do pay a personal visit to the armco.
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: PJ721 on January 19, 2005, 05:22:59 PM
what's "armco"?
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: Thumper881 on January 19, 2005, 05:29:02 PM
It's the stuff they put around the track to keep you from messing up the grass. ;)
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: Eric Kelcher on January 19, 2005, 06:05:40 PM
They did not use armco at Shenandoah and after the test Kevin suggested several changes then the karters tested suggested changes some that would be nice some that would be required before either would race there. Last word all changes required for racing were being made and some of the wishes as well.  

Now this is not to say that there will not be hazardous areas, I have not been there, but that those that remain were unavoidable as opposed to concrete placed next to track just cause they didn't want to clear a few more trees like the plans had called for which was most of the problems with the circuit in its as tested state.

PS the track runs counter clockwise (opposite of what everyone keeps thinking) and does not run the full straight
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: PJ721 on January 20, 2005, 05:25:51 AM
I must be dumb... well I know I am...but I still dont know what armco is!!! concrete? walls? that gravel stuff?

 ???
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: WebCrush on January 20, 2005, 07:30:48 AM
QuoteI must be dumb... well I know I am...but I still dont know what armco is!!! concrete? walls? that gravel stuff?

 ???

metal guard rails, same as you see on the highways
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: PJ721 on January 20, 2005, 09:01:12 AM
 :o

I dont like that stuff!
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: davegsxrold929r on January 20, 2005, 09:31:32 AM
Quote:o

I dont like that stuff!


as well you should not... LOL... bad bad stuff..
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: eh427 on January 20, 2005, 05:50:55 PM
QuoteI must be dumb... well I know I am...but I still dont know what armco is!!! concrete? walls? that gravel stuff?

 ???
Yes, you are. It is the stuff you would hit when you take one of your off track excursions. Just kidding ;D
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: PJ721 on January 21, 2005, 01:59:32 PM
hey there you are! been waiting for your input on this one!
 ;D

talk to you during the week to set up plans for the trip to the banquet Saturday...
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: Chuck on January 21, 2005, 02:06:03 PM
rider + Armco = hurting for sure...sorry for stating the obvious.
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: brian213 on January 24, 2005, 01:04:30 AM
The video is pretty cool.  The track map looks quite nice, though I'd arrange it differently..using another long straight and more corners.  :)

Found this on the USGPRU site:

http://blackmotorcycles.com/BlackMotorcycles/images/Shenandoa/SummitPointShenandoah1.htm

Looks like a really fun track (maybe not on a 1000, I think the camera is on an R1) but FOOOOK the walls! I hope they get and use a ton of air fence!

-Brian
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: PJ721 on January 24, 2005, 10:12:01 AM
who were the 3 riders? and if you are on the board... what are your opinions of the track?
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: SVbadguy on January 24, 2005, 01:48:48 PM
Quotewho were the 3 riders? and if you are on the board... what are your opinions of the track?


Ricks Beggs had the camera on his Kawi, Darren Danilowicz was on his SV, Nate Kern on a GSXR1000 (who you don't see), and someone I don't know on the 125.

Rick reads/posts occasionally.  He says if you don't have a problem racing Loudon, you shouldn't have a problem racing Shenandoah.  A few changes are/will be made and another test session will be held.  MARRC may even do a full on cornerworking test at the same time to figure out the best way to work it.
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: brian213 on January 24, 2005, 02:40:45 PM
Quotewho were the 3 riders? and if you are on the board... what are your opinions of the track?
Scott Moxey is on the 125 in front of the R1.

-Brian
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: ew422 on January 24, 2005, 03:46:09 PM
That is easily the dumbest thing I have ever seen.  Count me out.  Anyone who wants to race there is a moron.  Can you not find a better track on a particular weekend???  I would not even race my kart there.   Doing laps is one thing.  Racing is another.  Sheesh...
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: Eric Kelcher on January 24, 2005, 06:36:35 PM
That was the test that was run prior to any walls being moved. Don't base the racing or proximty of walls on that video. There are several changes that were to happen, maybe Rick can let us know what the changes are?  
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: PJ721 on January 25, 2005, 03:59:32 AM
QuoteCount me out. .

wimp!  ;)

but as of now....until I see it...I wont make any judgments...
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: pmoravek on January 25, 2005, 07:06:40 AM
Uuuum Gee guys.....
I don't know why everyone has their knickers in a twist. At least there are tests being performed, with qualified, experienced riders.
Most tracks would take a stance of...
"Here is our layout and kiss my a$$ if you don't like it."

Why don't we at least give the folks at Summit Point and CCS a chance to do their jobs before the bitchfest begins. ::)

If you want to complain about unsafe tracks, there are plenty to go around before you get to one the nobody has raced on yet.
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: eh427 on January 25, 2005, 07:24:40 AM
QuoteThat is easily the dumbest thing I have ever seen.  Count me out.  Anyone who wants to race there is a moron.  Can you not find a better track on a particular weekend???  I would not even race my kart there.   Doing laps is one thing.  Racing is another.  Sheesh...
Wussy. ;D
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: jp233 on January 25, 2005, 10:44:42 AM
yeah I am interested to know what Moxey and the other riders thought of the track...... and I hope some of those walls get moved yowzers!
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: Rick Beggs on January 27, 2005, 05:15:51 PM
camera is on a zx6r, mine, top speed on a speedo was 145, speedo error is about 15 per hr, so we will probably hit 140 at least on a clean track with rubber down, this will be a fun track, less than 2 miles with 20 corners, very technical,
i spoke with a cart club that tested there, and the changes summit agreed to do 4 them are different than ours, and we might be able to incorporate them into our layout also, kevin will make that decision
over all, the track is much safer than loudon, not as safe as vir, probably safer than daytona, i look foward to racing there
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: njracer1 on January 28, 2005, 01:31:58 PM
Quotecamera is on a zx6r, mine, top speed on a speedo was 145, speedo error is about 15 per hr, so we will probably hit 140 at least on a clean track with rubber down, this will be a fun track, less than 2 miles with 20 corners, very technical,
i spoke with a cart club that tested there, and the changes summit agreed to do 4 them are different than ours, and we might be able to incorporate them into our layout also, kevin will make that decision
over all, the track is much safer than loudon, not as safe as vir, probably safer than daytona, i look foward to racing there

If you think it's safer than Loudon then I'm in.

Do you know if there will be extensive use of air fence in crash zones like Loudon uses?

nj
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: Rick Beggs on January 28, 2005, 02:12:05 PM
they said it would probably be the foam things in front of the walls
Title: Re: Summit Point Shenadoah Circut
Post by: RADRB8 on January 29, 2005, 10:59:10 AM
I look fwd to checking it out after the changes have been made...Looks like fun to me... ;D def need a track day for sure... ;D