sorry to be repetitive about questioning when the 2005 schedule is going to be out.....mid jan...got it. but i'm trying to put together a christmas present for someone and am having trouble even locating the 2004 schedule, since its been pretty much erased. anyone got it downloaded and handy by chance?
thanks so much!
The new racer package for 2004 had the schedule in it (see page 11).
Link (http://www.formulausa.com/forms/2004%20newracerpkg.pdf)
:)
awesome!
thank you so much!
It's in the 'forms and rules' section.
http://www.formulausa.com/forms/2004%20Schedule%20V2.pdf
I hate mid-January. I wish it was dead, and now.
Something needs to be done to get the schedule out sooner. Every other organization I race with has their schedules out by now. How are we supposed to make good plans less than two months from the start of the season!
QuoteSomething needs to be done to get the schedule out sooner. Every other organization I race with has their schedules out by now. How are we supposed to make good plans less than two months from the start of the season!
I concur...
Amen!!
Season doesn't typically start until late late March, or early-mid April...
SW & Pac usually start late Feb to early March. Guess we're atypical, but it gives us even less time. :-/
In the Southwest, the season usually starts around the first of February. So, yes, that gives us a nice big ol month to plan things. But, alas, I've given up trying to plan anything around CCS releasing race schedules, let alone the calendar for the year. Ê:-/
I agree I did not race CCS in 2002 because I have to forcast vacation at work and had no schedule to work from(by the time the CCS schedule was out the vacaction dates were taken by others). Also a list of rule changes, like class eligibility, would be helpful when building a bike. An Email to CCS brought no response.
how frustrating to everyone! i wonder why it takes them so long to post the schedule? surely they have all the dates and tracks worked out by this point in the game, right? i don't know a whole lot about this arena, and am trying to learn, but you'd think it would do THEM (CCS) a favor by posting the schedule asap, wouldn't they get a better turn out which usually = more money????
I love being called a THEM. Reasons why the schedule is yet to be released:
1--Before we can release anything, especially a schedule, we must a) get approval from Clearchannel Corporate and b) have all of our contracts signed. This may not seem like a big issue to anyone not involved, but when you are part of a big corporation, you must check, recheck, then check again several things before making it public knowledge (this goes for things other than schedules as well).
2--We are still working on getting dates at a few new venues. We are hoping to include them on the first schedule we release to give everyone as much planning time as possible.
Guys, I am pretty easy to deal with, so if you just write to me, I'll respond. Please don't feel that the only way to get information is to post on here. Right now my email box is empty (for the first time in about 3 years), so send me your questions, thoughts, and comments if you feel you'd like to. I'll be right here to respond as soon as I can. (I do allow myself potty breaks, though, so be a little patient.)
;)
Tiffiney, why don't you post a "tentative" schedule? Makes sense to me! You can even state which dates are 99% sure and which dates are 1% sure. It seems you're (CCS) is potentially loosing money the longer you wait. So it would make good sense to get something out so people could make plans.
Great idea Clay.
thanks tiffiney for the information....and please, i meant no harm by "THEM" :) like i said, i'm new here and trying to orient myself to this entire realm of life!!! but your post is very informative and i appreciate you responding! i understand not wanting to post anything prematurely....that could definitely tick some folks off.....do you have any definites that could be out for the public eye, by chance??
The tentative, I repeat, tentative as of last night, Blackhawk Farms schedule looks like this: May 7-8, May 28-29, July 16-17,
August 27-28, September 24-25.
Having a complete schedule is nice, but I realize that it's a small number of events that are holding up the release of the confirmed events. I think releasing what is approved would help those that need notice as far ahead of time as possible. Putting the word 'TENATIVE' for any event still in question, without listing the location, would help people to schedule the appropriate race weekends off (though they still wouldn't know exactly how many days to schedule due to travel time variences of different tracks).
On the other side of the coin I see what happened several times in the recent past with early released schedules that people were using for the season once it started. How many people showed up at Road America last year for the 2nd scheduled event even after it had been rescheduled for Heartlant Park? I've seen numerous people going off of the tenative schedule (that is usually included with our renewal) for the whole season. With multiple schedules floating around that can lead to problems. But on the other hand if an event is not labeled specifically then someone relying on the tenative schedule wouldn't know where to go on a specific date so they would have to check a current schedule. :)
Tiff, please, oh please put Road Atlanta back on the schedule. I know you can't do it by yourself, but let "THEM" know ;D
At least release the first part of the year if possible? I am thinking of Daytona, but unless their is a date real soon my work schedule may not allow me to go. I will have to take close to a week of vacation, so knowing something earlier would be helpful.
P.S. Road Atlanta sounds good to me to ;)
I have absolutely no source but past experience, but I'm going to say Daytona will be March 4-6 as the Daytona 200 is March 12.
Heather
QuoteI love being called a THEM.
I dunno Tiff.. I think it came out better pointing to CCS vice pointing to you personally. Let's edit to see...
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how frustrating to everyone! i wonder why it takes Tiffiney Kelcher so long to post the schedule? surely Tiffiney Kelcher has all the dates and tracks worked out by this point in the game, right? i don't know a whole lot about this arena, and am trying to learn, but you'd think it would do Tiffiney Kelcher a favor by posting the schedule asap, wouldn't they get a better turn out which usually = more money?
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Wow... I'm guessing the flames would've been hotter had the above been written ;-)
You know we all love you Tiff. It's just that some folks may not understand that you have a LOT on your plate and do the best you can...
I'm not saying it's being pointed at me, but considering CCS consists of three people, it's hard not to take things personally. We'll be releasing the schedule within the next couple of days (Kevin is feeling better now). Even though we know the dates for most venues, the other part of the puzzle was contracts being signed. It's not as easy as just typing everything out and putting it on the net. If we could, believe me, we would have by now. It doesn't help anyone to hold it on purpose, so we obviously wouldn't do that. A wise person once told me "there's a reason for everything, whether you're able to see it or not". We're not keeping the schedule from you guys just to be meanies.
What kind of planning would you do for a schedule that is tentative? Make tentative plans? ??? ???
I sympathize with those who need to schedule vacations for road trips, but let's just relax, and I am sure CCS realizes to post the schedule when it is the proper time to do so. ::)
If a tentative schedule were posted, and then revised, there would be a whole new thread on how frustrating it is having to change plans, and how CCS shouldn't have posted it if they weren't sure, etc, etc. :-/
Gracias, Ray. Oh, and Heather is right.
Did she say I was a hot, sexy, stud muffin? ;D :-*
Uh...yeah, that's what she said... ;D
Read her last post.
;D
Tiffiney how can you allow yourself potty breaks?! Sheeesh...jk lol ;D ;) :P
Thanks for some of the clues given. I would much rather have a "tentative" schedule to work off of for budgeting both time and money though, with revisions given on a final "official" schedule when it is set in stone. I'm sure that as long as communication is clear, most people would prefer this as well. Tiffiney, just want to say thanks to you and the others who help get all this in place for us so that we have all this wonderful opportunity.
I'm sure that Kevin has the same issues I do getting a schedule done and even more since my corporate structure is one person and her office is just down the hallway. It's not easy getting a final schedule done by now sorry, tracks move things on you and then you get contracts that have price increases and other messed up demands that make it very hard to sign them.
Basically I got ours done early this year purely by luck and that's it.
Oh yeah - tentative schedules cause many more issues than a delayed firm schedule. Many, many more for us and riders alike.
I dunno, I think a schedule released now with the dates that are still tentative in red or something would be of great benefit to alot of people. Plus, put TENTATIVE all over the dang thing. That way, they'd know at least some of the dates they could go ahead and start planning for.
It honestly doesn't make a huge difference to me, as I have no plans for anything until I can get a new bike. LOL
If you want a 'tentative' schedule... look at this past year's. It's pretty much the same year to year.
:D
At least for the MA/SE regions.
What Ecumike said - last years is a pretty good tentative if you really really need to look at something.
Other than that - trust me, Kevin and I have both BTDT and it's not worth it. Tentative schedules are great until they have to be changed. Short term they make people happy long term they cause major problems.
QuoteWhat Ecumike said - last years is a pretty good tentative if you really really need to look at something.
Other than that - trust me, Kevin and I have both BTDT and it's not worth it. Tentative schedules are great until they have to be changed. Short term they make people happy long term they cause major problems.
Exactly!
:)
Geez, Chuck, I only go to that side of my cell once a day! I'll try to cut down!
QuoteOh yeah - tentative schedules cause many more issues than a delayed firm schedule. Many, many more for us and riders alike.
I agree. I was "tentatively" married once and there were a lot of problems... ::) ;)
Love ya tiff! ;) ;D :P
Actually our schedule is really simple to do, no contracts to sign.......all I do is grab a calander and pick my dates before I let any other group schedule in their dates...... ;D
ASMA
Arroyo Seco Raceway
Trade ya Roger!
How long before the schedule's up again ???
<throws 5 gallon drum of VP on the fire that's burning out and runs for cover>
;D :P
QuoteActually our schedule is really simple to do, no contracts to sign.......all I do is grab a calander and pick my dates before I let any other group schedule in their dates...... ;D
ASMA
Arroyo Seco Raceway
Must be nice to have your own race track in your backyard :P
-z.
Check here
http://www.formulausa.com/forms/05%20License%20Renewal%20Mailer
Eric, can we just print out that mailer purselves and send the license renewals in? Or do we have to wait for teh "official" mailer?
I don't see a reason you could not use a form off the net they are used all year long. as far as when you can send it in. It is posted that the cutoff is Jan 28 to keep number so get it in before then.
FYI I just keep my eye on different things I didn't know it was posted or the other stuff from any secert source just checked on my own.
Eric, I looked at the link, and it seems to be missing the Pacific schedule. I don't see any LP track days in Cali, either. Do you know if there is something we need to know about the Pacific region?
I like the addition of the Arroyo Seco races. None of the SW races conflict with the Arroyo series, either!
I haven't been over to the CCS office in about a month so I don't really know anything other that what is on the web. Tiffiney has a policy I am off work I don't want to talk about work.
Being an old guy, I have learned a thing or two about women. One thing is....
WHEN YOUR WOMAN WANTS SOMETHING, LISTEN, AND FOLLOW HER INSTRUCTIONS!!
Now, if I can just learn how to keep one!! ::)
Looks like for those of us following the MW/GP Regions combo schedule it will have quite a bit of variety. Total events as follows: BFR (5), Gateway (1), RA (1), HP (1), MAM (1), Gingerman (2), Barber (1), and ACC (2) [self proclaimed 1st abbreviation for Autobahn Country Club - ACC ;D]. For those not going to Daytona in the spring, Gateway will kick off the GP season on April 3 with a Sunday only event, Road America will kick off the MW regions schedule on April 22-24 with a Twin Sprint event combined with FUSA and the GP region (trial by fire to kick off the MW region season! :o ;D). Gingerman will again end both regions seasons on October 9 with the Race of Champions schedule showing October 20-23. The only back to back events are 3 events in a row at the end of June/start of July with HP, ACC, then MAM on the weekend of July 4th. After that combo it's 1 event every other weekend thru the end of the season, including the ROC. This schedule ROCKS for me, I will only have a maximium of 4 non weekend days I will need off of work to compete in the entire combined MW/GP regional schedule! ;D
Good luck, Mike. Keep us updated on your success. That's a lot of racing!! We have a 3 month gap in the summer in the SW region, so we will all be sitting around telling each other how fast we are during the months of July, Aug, and Sept..
QuoteGood luck, Mike. Keep us updated on your success. That's a lot of racing!! We have a 3 month gap in the summer in the SW region, so we will all be sitting around telling each other how fast we are during the months of July, Aug, and Sept..
Thanks, I plan on switching roles for the '05 season. I have been hanging at the back of the pack for a couple seasons just to stay involved, though I still followed the entire season for the MW and GP regions during that time (except during an injury). In '05 I will be making a more serious effort again so I'm really looking forward to it. :)
Hope your season goes well too! Don't drive each other too insane during that summer break! ;) ;D