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Racing Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: DanO966 on November 15, 2004, 10:25:26 PM

Title: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: DanO966 on November 15, 2004, 10:25:26 PM
Hey I'm thinking of doing a group buy on
scotts steering dampers and galfer brake lines.

give me some feedback.
anyone have any interest?

lmk
dano
chicago cycles
773-338-7320
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on November 16, 2004, 02:12:38 AM
It would be easier for me to reply if I actually had a bike right now.... :'(
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: speedster_1 on November 16, 2004, 06:49:01 AM
I need a new damper but I aint buying a scotts....If I can get an Ohlins I'm in.
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: WebCrush on November 16, 2004, 10:08:30 AM
QuoteI need a new damper but I aint buying a scotts....If I can get an Ohlins I'm in.

i guess you don't realize that Scotts dampers are made by Ohlins
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: speedster_1 on November 16, 2004, 01:01:47 PM
Yeah I knew that.  Give me some credit.  I just don't like the rotorary type dampers....those are for mx'ers....IMO.
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: Jeff on November 17, 2004, 05:33:02 AM
QuoteI just don't like the rotorary type dampers....those are for mx'ers....IMO.

And people who enjoy dampers that last forever and survive crashes...
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: speedster_1 on November 17, 2004, 06:41:55 AM
I don't care for the slight play the rotorary type/ scotts have.  Minimal play but might be just enough to start the slapper.  Could be mental but how many Scotts do you see on AMA bikes?  ???

I can get a discount (10-15 maybe 20%) on Ohlins if we get 10 or more buyers.  Probably get that on the scotts also but will have to check.  If enough are interested, post up!  I get a thread going.  I'm sticking with the standard Ohlins.  8)
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: OmniGLH on November 17, 2004, 06:59:47 AM
QuoteCould be mental but how many Scotts do you see on AMA bikes?  ???


I'm pretty sure the factory Yamaha team runs Scotts dampers.

I also don't have any "play" in my Scotts.
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: Jeff on November 17, 2004, 07:28:42 AM
Never had any play in my scotts either.  

There are a lot of things I see on AMA bikes that I don't on club bikes.  Much of it is related to budget.

Rod dampers tend to blow seals and fail far sooner than rotary dampers do, and again, they are not as crash resilient.  

AMA teams can afford to replace items that the normal club level guy can't.  

AMA guys can also trade lifespan/resiliency for a weight savings of a few ounces (rotary dampers are a touch heavier), but I simply cannot justify it.

YMMV
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: speedster_1 on November 17, 2004, 07:57:35 AM
I don't crash and have an unlimited buget!  ::)  ;D

I think what I was reading about the 'slight' play was due to the air bubble in the scotts...gotta start book marking those articals!

What ever works for you, run with it!  I was happy with my hyperpro.  Held up fine through more get offs than I thought it would...til the last one!

I'm assuming I can get the group buy discount on both....will confirm if I see enough peps interested.

Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: tzracer on November 17, 2004, 09:24:59 AM
I have never had a linear damper fail. The one on TZ is 10 years old and has never needed any maintenance.

Linear dampers are more likely to be damaged in a crash, but they are also a better set up. The rotary damper have a far smaller lever arm and less travel (of the damper, not the steering) than does the linear type.

It is also far easier to mount a linear damper when you have a custom set of triple clamps.
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: Ryan125 on November 17, 2004, 09:43:46 AM
scotts are more for street. and no, the yahame team uses ohlins. ohlins makes the best damper! and the scotts do break!!! the arm breaks, fairly easy. there was a review of dampers in one of the motorcycle mags a few months ago. hell the graves fairing bracket even come with the mount for the ohlins damper built in.
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: Jeff on November 17, 2004, 11:48:14 AM
right... the scotts is such junk.  Ohlins would never make a product like the scotts damper...
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: boo181 on November 17, 2004, 11:51:35 AM
got ohlin's on my bikes now, i started the season with a hyperpro on my suzuki. had to replace it 3 times, once after every race weekend it went threw. they took care of the first couple of times then they wanted me to buy a new one after the last blow up. thats when i changed brands. i'll never use a hyperpro again. intenrals kept blowing out.
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: Nate R on November 17, 2004, 07:44:23 PM
Dave's Hyperpro Damper lasted the entire season without problems. I think the mount did crack a bit after his 3rd cartwheeling fun crash.  ::) ;D

Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: ekraft84 on November 18, 2004, 11:31:28 AM
You guys should look at the Pit Bull damper coming out.  Charlie was demoing it on Speed with Greg (White).  It looks top notch without a doubt.

They aren't available for all bikes yet, but I should be getting mine (SV) within the next week.

Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: DanO966 on November 18, 2004, 08:34:00 PM
Ok....
I'm trying to hook something up for you guys.

Btw, I've had really good luck w/ scotts damper (which was designed by ohlins)...I have seen a few scotts sheer the pin for the pivot arm but other than that....they rock!   Plus they are *almost* crash proof! ;)
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: StumpysWife on November 19, 2004, 06:25:32 AM
QuoteOk....
I'm trying to hook something up for you guys.


See what you start when you offer to save those interested some cash?  ;)  Jeez!

For the record, Stumpy uses Scotts and it's just skippy.   ;D

Heather  ;)
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: motobenco on November 19, 2004, 08:10:51 AM
Dan, any way you can work out a group buy on Ramen Noodles?  
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: jer271 on November 25, 2004, 02:30:59 PM
Dano let me know whats up with what yur doing here I need both the dampner and brake lines and dont have much connection in minnesota also need to get my forks done and a rear shock seems like every time i get someone to help me they get other interest and Iam on my own again  give me beep
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: dylanfan53 on November 25, 2004, 07:30:15 PM
QuoteDan, any way you can work out a group buy on Ramen Noodles?  
Jeez, I was poor in my younger years, but only macaroni and cheese poor.  Ramen noodle poor sets a new standard!   ;D
Title: Re: I'm thinking of...group buy
Post by: brian213 on November 26, 2004, 12:03:14 AM
QuoteAnd people who enjoy dampers that last forever and survive crashes...
Hmm, must be a different Ohlins than the one I need rebuilt with a new rod....wait, nevermind, a right side lowside can hurt an Ohlins mounted on the left at Willow Springs.  :)  Know anybody that can fix it without robbing me?  It's the small 90mm one.  I paid about 150 new for it, not too often to see a price like that, but maybe I'd get a new one if the price was affordable...I like them WAY better than the HRC one.

-Brian