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Title: Married?  I need help.  Quick....
Post by: cornercamping on April 30, 2004, 06:51:47 AM
I have a problem.   I'm getting married June 5th.  That's not the problem.  The problem is that my fiance' doesn't want me to go near a racetrack until after the wedding/honeymoon.  This according to her is a non-negotiable issue.    ::)  Anyways, I understand where she's coming from, but I wanna race  :'(  She, unfortunately doesn't want to hear about it.   I figured it out, and if I do as she wants me to, and not go near the race track until after we get back from the honeymoon, I won't be going near a track until the beginning of July  :o :(   What do I do?  How do I convince her to let me go racing  ???  She's seen me crash before, so I can't play the "I won't crash" card.  :-/   Need help.  Gotta find a way to do trackdays/race this year before half the years overwith for me.  I have a race this weekend at Nelsons, and a Grattan trackday the following weekend.    :'(   HELP  :-/ She won't "let" me go to either.    :'(
Title: Re: Married?  I need help.  Quick....
Post by: BERZERKER on April 30, 2004, 07:06:17 AM
why ruin  a perfectly good relationship by getting married? J/K ;D ;D
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Post by: cornercamping on April 30, 2004, 07:18:45 AM
Quotewhy ruin Êa perfectly good relationship by getting married? J/K ;D ;D

 ;D  That's what my brother said
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Post by: spyderchick on April 30, 2004, 07:19:44 AM
Stop WANTING. just be.
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Post by: tigerblade on April 30, 2004, 07:23:51 AM
I was on crutches from a street crash (deer) when I got married.  It got a good laugh when they got to the "in sickness and in health" part.   :P

If she just wants you healthy for the wedding, that's one thing.  If she's wanting you to give it up for good, that's probably a problem.

BTW, I'm no longer married but not because of motorcycles.  Should have known it wouldn't last when our ringbearer told us on the way down the aisle "I hope you don't get divorced!"   ::) ;D
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Post by: 251am on April 30, 2004, 07:28:04 AM
A. If you are not allowed to race before the wedding, what are the odds it will be an issue after?
B. How long have you been together with your machines?
C. Has she been to the track with you and seen first hand how important it is to you?

    Tell her that May 8-9th you're going rock climbing in Devil's Lake with some Wisconsin friends, come to BHF, and race. If you crash it was just an incident on the rock. ;D
    That's a tough one. Do you want humor or serious advice? Heard the one about Jack Niclaus's wife. She was on Johnny Carson one night.....  
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Post by: EX#996 on April 30, 2004, 07:28:23 AM
Reschedule your wedding for at least six weeks after the last race date.  It should give you plenty of time to heal.    ;D

Why do you think Paul and I were married in the fall?

Dawn   :)
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Post by: cornercamping on April 30, 2004, 07:31:04 AM
QuoteI was on crutches from a street crash (deer) when I got married. ÊIt got a good laugh when they got to the "in sickness and in health" part. Ê :P

If she just wants you healthy for the wedding, that's one thing. ÊIf she's wanting you to give it up for good, that's probably a problem.

BTW, I'm no longer married but not because of motorcycles. ÊShould have known it wouldn't last when our ringbearer told us on the way down the aisle "I hope you don't get divorced!" Ê ::) ;D

LOL... nah, she doesn't care if I race as long as it's after the wedding.  She just doesn't want me near the track before the wedding.    :-/  I tried telling her that I would go "as slow as possible"  ::) , but that didn't cut it either.  She's got her mom and sister on her side, so I'm kinda fighting a lost battle unless I can come up with a hell of a idea or excuse... thus... I'm asking you guys, the experts  ;D
Title: Re: Married? ÊI need help. ÊQuick....
Post by: cornercamping on April 30, 2004, 07:36:24 AM
QuoteA. If you are not allowed to race before the wedding, what are the odds it will be an issue after?
B. How long have you been together with your machines?
C. Has she been to the track with you and seen first hand how important it is to you?

 Ê ÊTell her that May 8-9th you're going rock climbing in Devil's Lake with some Wisconsin friends, come to BHF, and race. If you crash it was just an incident on the rock. ;D
 Ê ÊThat's a tough one. Do you want humor or serious advice? Heard the one about Jack Niclaus's wife. She was on Johnny Carson one night..... Ê

A: After is not a problem.  She knows that the only way I'll give up motorcycles in any way is in a coffin.

B: 9 years with machines.  2.5 years with her.

C: Yeah, she saw me highside at Grattan.  She also followed the ambulance to the fine medical facilities in Grand Rapids, MI  ;D

Rock climbing  ??? You crazy  ???  That's dangerous.  Plus, I'm scared of heights  ;)
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Post by: cornercamping on April 30, 2004, 07:40:03 AM
QuoteReschedule your wedding for at least six weeks after the last race date. ÊIt should give you plenty of time to heal. Ê Ê;D

Why do you think Paul and I were married in the fall?

Dawn Ê :)

Yeah, I tried that arguement over a year ago, but she wasn't having it.  She wanted to get married in June.   All this crap is costing me alot of tires   :(  I could've paid for 5 seasons worth of racing with what this wedding has cost me.  This is where the reception is at: //www.roostertail.com   I can't change anything.  I said Vegas, she said nope.    >:(
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Post by: StumpysWife on April 30, 2004, 07:41:30 AM
Everything is negotiable.  You just have to figure out what it's worth to you.

Also, let's put this in perspective.  We're talking a little over a month here.  By the time you stop bickering about it, the wedding will be here.  

As I like to say almost constantly, choose your battles.

Heather
Title: Re: Married? ÊI need help. ÊQuick....
Post by: cornercamping on April 30, 2004, 07:51:31 AM
QuoteEverything is negotiable. ÊYou just have to figure out what it's worth to you.

I've tried:

1. Ending my riding season at the end of the race season instead of attending southern track days in Nov., and Dec.  Didn't work.

2. Trading a trip to Disney World on her B-Day (Aug.) to race.

3. Going only to races before the wedding instead of trackdays and racing.

None of the above has worked.  She doesn't want me on two wheels at all before the wedding.  i don't ride on the street.  Too dangerous   ;D  She says not negotiable.   No riding before the wedding.  >:(
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Post by: EmerWil on April 30, 2004, 07:53:33 AM
it sounds like you don't really want to get married then...nudge nudge..


Never let a woman come between and man and the track...

Sounds like it might be time to sign a pre-nup...


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Post by: cornercamping on April 30, 2004, 07:57:04 AM
Quoteit sounds like you don't really want to get married then...nudge nudge..


Never let a woman come between and man and the track...

Sounds like it might be time to sign a pre-nup...



Nah, I wanna get married.  Gotta make sure someone is there to change my crap bag if I ever crash hard enough to end up crapping in a bag and eating thru a straw  ;) ;D
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Post by: TZDeSioux on April 30, 2004, 08:37:50 AM
Regulate! If you follow through with what she wants. You are setting a precedent for yourself that you will regret later. Go racing and highside the living hell out of yourself and go to your wedding broken. That'll show her!
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Post by: cornercamping on April 30, 2004, 08:44:10 AM
QuoteRegulate! If you follow through with what she wants. You are setting a precedent for yourself that you will regret later. Go racing and highside the living hell out of yourself and go to your wedding broken. That'll show her!

Your not married are ya  ;D :P
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Post by: EX#996 on April 30, 2004, 08:44:57 AM
Well Corner...

I guess you're just screwed....

See you in July!

Dawn  :)
Title: Re: Married? ÊI need help. ÊQuick....
Post by: cornercamping on April 30, 2004, 08:49:07 AM
QuoteWell Corner...

I guess you're just screwed....

See you in July!

Dawn Ê:)

 :'(
Title: Re: Married?  I need help.  Quick....
Post by: diesel748 on April 30, 2004, 09:12:04 AM
I'm taking the plunge in july I feel lucky I only have to miss one round (BFR 07/17/07). I know how you feel I have had to cut back on my budget due to an extrodenarily expensive reception. The one thing I do know is I will not let the future Mrs. read this thread.(she doesn't need any Ideas) Good luck with whatever happens. Hopefully you will have a happy life together & you make enough money @ the reception to buy some new racing goodies!! ;)
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Post by: TZDeSioux on April 30, 2004, 09:18:35 AM
QuoteYour not married are ya  ;D :P

5 years this May.  :)
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Post by: tigerblade on April 30, 2004, 09:32:33 AM
QuoteRegulate!

Thank you, Warren G.   ;D
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Post by: MadXX on April 30, 2004, 09:36:32 AM
I can see it coming...

Just wait till after the wedding dear...

...*after the wedding*...

Honey, we need a house/car/dog/kid/my mother's moving in.  You have to sell the bikes.   Dont you love me?  :'(  ;D

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Post by: TZDeSioux on April 30, 2004, 10:06:38 AM
QuoteI'm taking the plunge in july I feel lucky I only have to miss one round (BFR 07/17/07). I know how you feel I have had to cut back on my budget due to an extrodenarily expensive reception. The one thing I do know is I will not let the future Mrs. read this thread.(she doesn't need any Ideas) Good luck with whatever happens. Hopefully you will have a happy life together & you make enough money @ the reception to buy some new racing goodies!! ;)

extrodenarily?? what the hell language you speaking there mang? It's extraordinarily. say it with me EXTRA ORDINARILY.
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Post by: StumpysWife on April 30, 2004, 10:17:39 AM
We have the opposite problem in our house.  Paraphrased from actual conversation:

Me:  I'm signing you up for the Unlimited GP, too.

Stumpy:  Why?  Those are the big bikes.   Are you sure?

Me:  Yes, I'm sure.  Why wouldn't you do it?  You are my machine.  You will race what I sign you up for.

Stumpy:  But that's another $70.

Me:  Well you'll  pay for it somehow.  Don't you have extra jobs to do at work?  

 ;D ;D ;D

I LOVE BEING STUMPY'S RACE WIFE!

Heather ;)
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Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on April 30, 2004, 10:17:43 AM
Dunno what to tell ya, dude.  I gave up EVERYTHING to get married.  We were pretty poor then.  It took eight years, but over that time I bought a house, got a few bikes, went a few places...  Then I went racing.  She calls racing "The Mistress."

We've been married 13 years now, and last night she came in from her garden as it started to rain, mixed us a shaker of martinis and brought it out to the porch, sat down beside me and said, "I love you!"
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Post by: EX#996 on April 30, 2004, 10:25:18 AM
QuoteDunno what to tell ya, dude.  I gave up EVERYTHING to get married.  We were pretty poor then.  It took eight years, but over that time I bought a house, got a few bikes, went a few places...  Then I went racing.  She calls racing "The Mistress."

We've been married 13 years now, and last night she came in from her garden as it started to rain, mixed us a shaker of martinis and brought it out to the porch, sat down beside me and said, "I love you!"

Yep,

Pretty much the same here.  Paul was drag racing at the time.  We got married at 21, struggled the first number of years being dirt broke (boy do I have some stories I could tell about some places we lived  :o).  Had Renee and then in 2001, we started racing again.

Yeah, sometimes Paul and I bitch at each other, but neither of us can imagine being without the other (no matter what Paul says  ;)).  It will be 16 years this October.  

Dawn   :)
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Post by: Thingy on April 30, 2004, 10:34:15 AM
My buddy said that he never new what true happiness was until he go married.  But then it was too late.  :D
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Post by: tigerblade on April 30, 2004, 10:39:35 AM
I read that married men live longer than single men, but they're also more willing to die.   ;D


It can be a wonderful thing and I'm sure I'll go through it again someday if the right one comes along.  
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Post by: EX#996 on April 30, 2004, 10:45:38 AM
QuoteI read that married men live longer than single men, but they're also more willing to die.   ;D


 

LOL!!!!


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Post by: MadXX on April 30, 2004, 10:51:37 AM
They also say only married men can truely appreciate the life they no longer have.

Disclaimer:
I know my wife reads this board so this does not pertain to any woman I may be married to,  nor to women who's initials are JB or ones who are cool wives who let their husbands spend a lot of money on on hobby which can cause serious injury or death while her bathroom remodeling project is put on hold.
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Post by: G1K@work on April 30, 2004, 12:04:48 PM
You tell your wife to be that she can not go shopping between now and the wedding, what if she should trip in the mall and twist her ankle?  There is so many what if...

Dude, just go racing.  Or compromise for one or two events instead of the total amount you planned.  If it's iomportant to you, it should be important to her and you both should reach some sore of ground in the middle.


R
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Post by: TZDeSioux on April 30, 2004, 12:07:21 PM
QuoteIt can be a wonderful thing and I'm sure I'll go through it again someday if the right one comes along.  

awww.. Kris.. i'm sure the right dude will come along soon enough  ;D
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Post by: tigerblade on April 30, 2004, 12:17:01 PM
Quoteawww.. Kris.. i'm sure the right dude will come along soon enough  ;D

Oh he has, schnookums.   :-*
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Post by: cornercamping on April 30, 2004, 12:21:30 PM
QuoteI'm taking the plunge in july I feel lucky I only have to miss one round (BFR 07/17/07). I know how you feel I have had to cut back on my budget due to an extrodenarily expensive reception. The one thing I do know is I will not let the future Mrs. read this thread.(she doesn't need any Ideas) Good luck with whatever happens. Hopefully you will have a happy life together & you make enough money @ the reception to buy some new racing goodies!! ;)


So your on death row too  :o  Well, atleast I'm not the only one.    ;D Could be worse.  She could be the boss of the family  :o
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Post by: am_#65_john_deere on April 30, 2004, 03:56:24 PM
just tell her you are going racing and that is it.

the wedding will go ahead regardless.

i went to gingerman last year the day before i flew to ireland for my wedding and guess what,,,,,,,,,,,

i crashed at gingerman,,,,,,,,still got married,,,,,,,wife forgot all about it.

nuff said.
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Post by: cornercamping on April 30, 2004, 04:01:17 PM
Quotejust tell her you are going racing and that is it.

the wedding will go ahead regardless.

i went to gingerman last year the day before i flew to ireland for my wedding and guess what,,,,,,,,,,,

i crashed at gingerman,,,,,,,,still got married,,,,,,,wife forgot all about it.

nuff said.

Wanna call my fiance for me and you tell her.   ::) ;D
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Post by: am_#65_john_deere on April 30, 2004, 04:30:25 PM
if she doesn't understand now,

what will she be like after the wedding?????????

there is something wrong if things change after the wedding. :o :o :o

anyway,
give me her number,,,,,,,but be sure to send me a pic too,,,,,,,,,,,,,it's nice to see who i'm talking to. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Baltobuell on April 30, 2004, 05:35:08 PM
There are only 3 things people fight about. This goes from wars to marrages. Sex, Money, and Power. Seems to me she has control of 2 for sure and is working on the money. Have you thought this MAJOR LIFE ALTERING DECISION THAT DEFINES WHETHER YOUR LIFE WILL BE HAPPY all the way through?
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Post by: cornercamping on April 30, 2004, 06:36:14 PM
QuoteThere are only 3 things people fight about. This goes from wars to marrages. Sex, Money, and Power. Seems to me she has control of 2 for sure and is working on the money. Have you thought this MAJOR LIFE ALTERING DECISION THAT DEFINES WHETHER YOUR LIFE WILL BE HAPPY all the way through?

Bah.. i'm the boss.  She's just scared that I'll get hurt and not make the wedding, or show up all screwed up with broken parts. She only has control of the sex part  ;) ;D
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Post by: smoke on April 30, 2004, 06:47:01 PM
CC

Here's the real deal... i went through the same thing when I got hitched but mine was volleyball.

Every women, girl has a dream/ vision of what thier weding day will be like .  They want a perefect day.  its the day they have been thinking about/dreaming of since they were little.  Its her day!

I did not play that month and I just stoped playing last year to take up racing.  So just suck it up and let her have her way as its her day.

Mel
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Post by: dylanfan53 on April 30, 2004, 06:59:12 PM
I don't understand guys that need permission to do something.  I've worked with some guys that might was well be on a leash.
If you want that kind of relationship, then you must not mind being told that you can't race.  So do what she says, keep your piehole shut and live in peace.
If you can't take being told you can't race, then you won't like her telling you everything else you can't do in life. So run away fast. :o
IMHO and all that.

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Post by: Baltobuell on April 30, 2004, 07:20:34 PM
 Women always have control of the sex, that's a given. :'( That's why men work so hard for money. ;D
  Congradulations and best of luck. I hope you don't  catch yourself in a couple of years saying, New Harley, Dinette set, Harley, Dinette set. ;D

 You're getting married so expect to be ribbed a little
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Post by: dylanfan53 on April 30, 2004, 07:38:22 PM
QuoteWomen always have control of the sex, that's a given. :'( That's why men work so hard for money. ;D

No one has control of anything if the other person doesn't care that much about it.  First rule of negotiation; Care, but not too much...

QuoteYou're getting married so expect to be ribbed a little
By his wife to be or us? :)
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Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 01, 2004, 03:58:44 AM
Quoteor ones who are cool wives who let their husbands spend a lot of money on on hobby which can cause serious injury or death while her bathroom remodeling project is put on hold.[/i]
Man!  That's just too funny.  I had pipe problems last summer, and wound up hacking out the walls to fix them.  When water starts shooting out, you pretty much have to drop everything else and deal with it.  This was of course at the time when I had 4 race weekends in a row, a blown motor, ect, ect, ect.  Naturally, it was all the wife's fault because she was remodeling the bathroom by herself and found wet plaster under the wallpaper she was stripping, thus leading her to the leak, thus getting ME involved!  The upstairs bathroom is STILL hacked up!  See, I've managed to convince the wife that I build bikes, she remodels the house.  These are both hobbies that we enjoy.  She does hers, I do mine, we're both happy.  Kinda slick, really! ;D
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Post by: roadracer797 on May 01, 2004, 04:13:46 AM
Ok my 2 cents
You can't go through life waiting for something bad to happen and not do anything because if it never happens you are still dead and didn't have fun. You have to live life now not for what is in the future which none of us can see, if the future holds bad things then that was meant to be for God had it planned that way. Marriage is a give and take relationship and it sounds right now she is not giving at all and you have to make her realize that this just sets the stage for problems in the future, but hey remmeber we can't see into the future so do what is right now and hope for the best because we only live once so enjoy everyday like it's the last. Hope this has helped and if not hope she comes around after and doesn't stop you from living the life you enjoy, with her in it.
Craig  
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Post by: cornercamping on May 01, 2004, 08:34:36 AM
QuoteEvery women, girl has a dream/ vision of what thier weding day will be like . ÊThey want a perefect day. Êits the day they have been thinking about/dreaming of since they were little. ÊIts her day!

That's more or less what it is right there.   So, I've decided just to let it go, and let her have her way for now.  I"ll be at the first race after I get back from the honeymoon.  ;) ;D
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Post by: smoke on May 01, 2004, 08:45:18 PM
QuoteI don't understand guys that need permission to do something.  I've worked with some guys that might was well be on a leash.
If you want that kind of relationship, then you must not mind being told that you can't race.  So do what she says, keep your piehole shut and live in peace.
If you can't take being told you can't race, then you won't like her telling you everything else you can't do in life. So run away fast. :o
IMHO and all that.


I take it you are not married?  Well I have been for 4 years. We have our good days and bad but u get through them. And anyone will tell u I do what I want when I want.  What u do not understand is the word compromise.  A marrige is about give and take, respecting the other person. Its called considering the other persons feelings, thoughts, and emotions.

I ask to consider her plans, and thoughts. If she says no I say ok I still am going and I say way I will do what I want. But sometimes I do the stuff se wants to do.
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Post by: smoke on May 01, 2004, 08:49:45 PM
QuoteWomen always have control of the sex, that's a given. :'( That's why men work so hard for money. ;D
  Congradulations and best of luck. I hope you don't  catch yourself in a couple of years saying, New Harley, Dinette set, Harley, Dinette set. ;D

 You're getting married so expect to be ribbed a little

 
Man I was there!!!!!!  It was new living room set or new/used race bike.  She spent her money on new living room stuff.  I picked up the 02 600 with my money.
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Post by: smoke on May 01, 2004, 09:03:23 PM
I can say I have a cool wife as she lets me do the things that make me happy and she supports me. When I needed rain tiers for 4/8/04 track day she went and picked them up.
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Post by: dylanfan53 on May 01, 2004, 09:33:18 PM
QuoteI can say I have a cool wife as she lets me do the things that make me happy and she supports me. When I needed rain tiers for 4/8/04 track day she went and picked them up.
Congrats.  I hope you have many happy years together.  I'm on year 18 and I got lucky too.  

I was short in my prior response, but too many men blame their wives for denying them things that they want to do.  IMHO, I think that just makes them weak and, in many cases, is insulting and unfair to their wives.

Compromise is fine.  Respect is essential.  I respect my wife's opinions as much, if not more than my own. We each have our strengths and weaknesses and, yes, we get on each other's nerves sometimes.
Life's too complicated to say how two people get along best. All I know is that she knows what's important to me and she knows that I wouldn't enjoy life as much if I couldn't pursue it.  Whether it's motorcycles or snowmobiles or golf or hunting or tiddly winks or whatever, for her to deny me life's adventures would be asking me to give up part of who I am.

She's a great gal because she never asks me to do that.  And I'd never deny her the things that give her joy. In fact, I work hard to provide them as best I can.  Of course, she's a woman and changes them often to keep me guessing....oops, there I go again.

I'm up too late. Peace.

  
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Post by: Roach on May 02, 2004, 04:50:32 PM
I'm getting the feeling that most of the negatives here are from people who aren't married, or are missing the point entirely - she's not asking him to quit racing.

My wife and I both race. We didn't race, or do track days before the wedding. This was a mutual agreement.

Why? Because we're club racers. Racing isn't a necessity, we don't earn a living from it, and hopping down the isle on crutches just isn't quite the same as walking down it. It's also much harder to dance with a cast on your leg  ;D

You get married once. There's lots more club races for years and years to come. If you honestly see club racing as something more important than your wedding (or more to the point, your future wife's vision of it) ... you might want to reconsider the latter.

- Roach
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Post by: Bernie on May 02, 2004, 07:11:48 PM
Corner I'll buy your 04 gixxer off you for cheap. ;D
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Post by: Baltobuell on May 02, 2004, 09:16:51 PM
 Ya know, For me this thread was a little curious. Racers standing up for marriage? At work most everyone thinks of it as work away from work. A burden. Then it hit me that married racers have to have a wife that supports a man's outside interests. So they have husbands that are happily married. That in turn makes her life richer by living with a happy guy that is more interesting and she gets to do whatever she thinks is fun with her time. Give and take, but the groundwork apparently starts very early and is easily lost.
 
Smoke, if you bought a bike for you and she bought furniture for the house and is happy about that, you've got gold there buddy! Take flowers home today. ;D
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Post by: cornercamping on May 03, 2004, 07:04:53 AM
QuoteCorner I'll buy your 04 gixxer off you for cheap. ;D

 ;D Nice TRY  ;)
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Post by: TZDeSioux on May 03, 2004, 08:54:20 AM
I have a neighbor who likes to come to my garage when I'm working on my bike to talk about bikes and how he used to ride and how fun it was. I asked him why he doesn't ride anymore. His answer was that his wife made him sell it when they got married because it's too dangerous. Now all he does is drive around in his Volvo with a freaking parrot on his shoulder.

Moral of the story? Don't be a biatch!
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Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 03, 2004, 09:53:57 AM
QuoteThen it hit me that married racers have to have a wife that supports a man's outside interests. So they have husbands that are happily married. That in turn makes her life richer by living with a happy guy that is more interesting and she gets to do whatever she thinks is fun with her time.  
Very well said.  I think that this is the truth my wife and I  finally discovered.  Things were rough, I mean ROUGH when I started racing, but we're OK now.  I'm about as happily married as a guy can be.  She "Doesn't support my racing," but she mows the lawn, fixes everything she can around the house, brings home the groceries and pays the bills.  This leaves me the time I need to go out and play, or do the work required between races to stay in the game.  Thank god for her "Non-support!"
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Post by: LAG on May 03, 2004, 09:58:25 AM
I've never understood the whole "my wife won't let me ride" philosophy.  As a woman, a racer, and married to a racer, I understand that without racing, my husband would be a sad man.  Do I get worried because it's dangerous? Of course I do.  But at the same time, driving our cars are dangerous, walking down the street is dangerous...almost anything we do in our normal daily lives could get us all hurt.

As Roach said, we both agreed not to race or do track days before our wedding, and it was a mutual agreement. After we got married, it was right back to racing.  Did the time off suck?  Heck yea, but all in all it was worth it.  We're celebrating our first anniversary today.  :D

If you can't find a woman who supports what makes you happy, get rid of her.  Either that, or take away her credit cards and see how she feels with no more shopping. ;)
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Post by: fizzer400 on May 03, 2004, 10:01:09 AM
if you really love her, you'll be fine with waiting to race until after the wedding. you've got to understand that women take this marriage thing way more seriously than us guys. this is their day, and they want it to be perfect. they don't want to exchange vows with you in the ICU.

last year i skipped the races at jennings because of the very same reason you have. and guess what? she let me race after the wedding! :)

there will be plenty of other times to race, but you only do this once(hopefully). :)

jeff
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Post by: Roach on May 03, 2004, 10:30:52 AM
Quoteyou've got to understand that women take this marriage thing way more seriously than us guys. this is their day, and they want it to be perfect.

Funniest quote, from my friend Mike when I asked him to be my Best Man:

"If you remember one thing, this will all go just fine: It's her day, not yours"


Know what? He was right.

:)

- Roach
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Post by: fizzer400 on May 03, 2004, 11:45:11 AM
you're totally right roach! what's sad is that even more than her day(which it should be), it's really more about the families getting what they want! (if it's a big wedding)

jeff
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Post by: madanalyst on May 03, 2004, 01:22:27 PM
QuoteLOL... nah, she doesn't care if I race as long as it's after the wedding.  She just doesn't want me near the track before the wedding.    :-/  I tried telling her that I would go "as slow as possible"  ::) , but that didn't cut it either.  She's got her mom and sister on her side, so I'm kinda fighting a lost battle unless I can come up with a hell of a idea or excuse... thus... I'm asking you guys, the experts  ;D

suck it up and stay off the track.  I recently went through the same thing and quickly learned the wedding is asimportant, to her, as the track is to you.  When i was in your shoes, i couldn't live with myself in the event i got hurt on the track and screwed up the one day my wife had been looking forward to for so long.  Your giving up less than a few months track time.  the bigger issue is you ought to be thinking about is the jail time that comes afterward.  Kidding.  Stay off the track and I'm sure the wife will make it up to you by allowing you to catch up on the rush after the fact.  
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Post by: cornercamping on May 03, 2004, 01:42:20 PM
Unfortunately, I am personally paying for the whole wedding.  There are 550 people invited, and we are having it at one of the "best" places to have a wedding in Detroit.  It's right on the water, at a historical night club type (www.roostertail.com) deal from back in the 50's.  Not sure what it really was, but she found the place she wanted to have the wedding in a bridal magazine.  Her dad has brain cancer, so her parents are broke paying medical bills even though he's retired military.  The gov. only covers some of the stuff I guess.  Regardless, since I asked her, she's been the "princess" of Detroit.  I figure what the hell, you only get married once, or so I hope, and I decided to give her the dream wedding that all women want.   I will be broke for a long time trying to come back from the wedding, and hopefully everyone that shows up throws a couple Ben Franklin's in the envelope so I can break even.  To give you an idea, 112 Set's of Michelin S2/M2 tires is what this is going to cost me when it's all said and done.  Her mom paid for the entire wedding shower which was yesterday.  The only thing that sucks is that for what this wedding is costing me, I could've bought a Petronas FP1  ::) and still had enough money for tires, gas, and hotel rooms for the enitre season.  Oh well, you only get married once right  ::)  Something happens and we ever get divorced, I'm taking her engagement ring and buying that Petronas  :P  But, since she's so worried about me getting hurt, and threatening to slice the Michelin's in the garage with a steak knife, I've decided that I'll give her what she wants, not that I really had a choice  ::)  After the wedding, she doesn't care.  That is understood by both, and I know she won't give me any headaches about it.  Last April we had a daughter, and she started the "college fund, no more racing, no more smoking (cigs.)" routine because of the new baby.  Well, here's where that got her:

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As you can see, I won that argument  ;) ;D  That was last year in May @ Grattan.  That bike was my love.  2002 Ducati 748S.   I spent all the money I had on it tricking it out.  Well, 3 days after that picture was taken, I sold it, gave the wifey $4K to buy baby crap, and I bought a used R6.  So, she was happy, and I kept racing.  It'll be no different.  

By the way, anyone know who that lady is in the backround  ???  I always see her at the races, but have no idea who it is  ???
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Post by: MudDawg on May 03, 2004, 03:16:44 PM

Face it...the man is done fer.  I told my wife....afetr the race season.  And it was.  Now a SMART man would have negotiated the time from the race season until the wedding.  Never said I was smart.

I came back from Daytona (Left late Sunday night....drove through the night....got home Monday evening.)  The wedding was that Friday.  No stress....really.  NOT!!!!

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Post by: cornercamping on May 03, 2004, 03:24:33 PM
Well, I didn't think it was going to be a problem until I told her I was going to RA to race "this weekend" and she flipped out. That's when I posted this thread in a panic  ;D
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Post by: Dawn on May 03, 2004, 03:28:12 PM
QuoteWell, I didn't think it was going to be a problem until I told her I was going to RA to race "this weekend" and she flipped out. That's when I posted this thread in a panic  ;D


Ummm.....

RA was April 23rd to the 25th, you started this thread on the 30th.  Blackhawk isn't until this weekend (May 8th & 9th)   ???

Dawn   ;)
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Post by: cornercamping on May 03, 2004, 03:49:02 PM
QuoteUmmm.....

RA was April 23rd to the 25th, you started this thread on the 30th. ÊBlackhawk isn't until this weekend (May 8th & 9th) Ê ???

Dawn Ê ;)

Actually, I'm mistaken.  It was the STT Grattan track day that caused this.  I missed RA because I didn't have bodywork  >:( :'(
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Post by: 2Bfast on May 03, 2004, 06:57:09 PM
Well said.  ;) No wonder you've been married for 18 years.  ::)

QuoteCongrats.  I hope you have many happy years together.  I'm on year 18 and I got lucky too.  

I was short in my prior response, but too many men blame their wives for denying them things that they want to do.  IMHO, I think that just makes them weak and, in many cases, is insulting and unfair to their wives.

Compromise is fine.  Respect is essential.  I respect my wife's opinions as much, if not more than my own. We each have our strengths and weaknesses and, yes, we get on each other's nerves sometimes.
Life's too complicated to say how two people get along best. All I know is that she knows what's important to me and she knows that I wouldn't enjoy life as much if I couldn't pursue it.  Whether it's motorcycles or snowmobiles or golf or hunting or tiddly winks or whatever, for her to deny me life's adventures would be asking me to give up part of who I am.

She's a great gal because she never asks me to do that.  And I'd never deny her the things that give her joy. In fact, I work hard to provide them as best I can.  Of course, she's a woman and changes them often to keep me guessing....oops, there I go again.

I'm up too late. Peace.

  
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Post by: 03R6-Rider on May 03, 2004, 07:08:27 PM
QuoteThat bike was my love.  2002 Ducati 748S.   I spent all the money I had on it tricking it out.  Well, 3 days after that picture was taken, I sold it, gave the wifey $4K to buy baby crap, and I bought a used R6.  So, she was happy, and I kept racing.

A 2002 748 with a gold frame and three-spoke wheels?  I thought you were a novice, why the white plates, street tires and no numbers?  You sandbaggin', Corner?
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Post by: cornercamping on May 03, 2004, 07:13:28 PM
QuoteA 2002 748 with a gold frame and three-spoke wheels? I thought you were a novice, why the white plates, street tires and no numbers? You sandbaggin', Corner?

It was the last of the "old chassis" bikes (gold w/brembo wheels, not marchesini). Came from AU originally. It was a "real" euro model. The wheels I put on it. I had them powder coated and exact match to Ducati Yelllow. Wanna talk about hard to do. 3 tries to match the color to the exact Ducati yellow. White plates, street tires, and no numbers ::) Sandbagging :o NO ;D  That was my track bodywork on the bike. I bought that bodywork used. It was at a track day, thus no numbers.
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Post by: 03R6-Rider on May 03, 2004, 07:24:59 PM
QuoteThat was my track bodywork on the bike. I bought that bodywork used. It was at a track day, thus no numbers.

I must be missing something, you track bodywork has white plates, does that mean your street bodywork has yellow plates?   :-/  Why didn't you just run your race bodywork?  Seems weird to take off the race bodywork for a trackday?
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Post by: cornercamping on May 03, 2004, 07:32:14 PM
My street bodywork was painted carbon fiber.  So, instead of trashing the carbon, I bought some regular OEM fairings on ebay.  Then, my race fairings weren't done yet, so I just used the ones from ebay.  Here's another pic.  Those aren't really number plates.  The tail one's are, but the front, if you look good at this pic, you'll see are white duct tape over the light holes. Notice, no bellypan (fluid retention).  They were regualr OEM used Ducati fairings.  I was posing 8)

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