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Title: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: TZDeSioux on April 15, 2004, 06:46:23 pm
This Sunday is the MotoGP season opener. Anyone who'll be at RA want to make a little wager on who's going to win?

Here's my top 3
1. Biaggi
2. Gibernau
3. Rossi
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: hdpromos on April 15, 2004, 06:59:32 pm
1. Edwards
2. Rossi
3. Hayden

HD
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: roadrashroeser on April 15, 2004, 08:12:45 pm
My top three
1. Rossi
2. Barros
3. Hayden(I hope)
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: Super_KC124 on April 15, 2004, 08:19:23 pm
1. Edwards
2. Biaggi
3. Hayden

Is this a season long contest to see who can pick the most winners? ;D
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: spyderchick on April 15, 2004, 09:13:42 pm
Hayden
Rossi
Barros

Rossi was my man, 8) but Nicky's talented and cute to boot. ;) Remember when he was just a pimply little kid? If I were only (ahem) years younger... ;D :-*
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: Bernie on April 15, 2004, 09:22:33 pm
Barros is gonna be strong.
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: 251am on April 16, 2004, 03:29:32 am

1Rossi
2Hayden
3Bayliss
              Whomever wins, this is gonna be one awesome season to watch.          
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: quicktoy on April 16, 2004, 04:42:57 am
I agree Hayden is so damn cute, if i were only (ahem) a girl LMAO ;-)

1) Rossi
2)Hayden
3) Gibernau/Edwards/Biaggi
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: diesel748 on April 16, 2004, 05:20:21 am
1- Giberneau
2- Rossi
3- Biaggi

this will be an exiting year b/c Rossi is on the inferior yamaha I can't wait to see what he can do. with that M1 or whatever they call it.
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: StumpysWife on April 16, 2004, 05:50:22 am
I'm so excited for this race!!!!!!!

In Heather's head...
1.  Hayden (This is like asking who's my favorite in MWSS?  Stumpy!)
2.  Rossi
3.  Edwards

In reality...
1.  Rossi
2.  Gibernau
3.  Hayden

Rossi will be hard to beat on a tricycle.  Edwards will be the wild card.  

Another question...

Will Kurtis finish the race?

I'm guessing no.

Heather
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: motomadness on April 16, 2004, 06:01:03 am
1. Edwards/Rossi < 0.2 seconds
2. Gibernau/Hayden <2.0 seconds
3. Biaggi/Barros < 5.0 seonds

Wild Card: Tamada

Biaggi has started seasons well in the past, but he may have some fighting to do this time.  Edwards has the right bike and the right attittude.  Rossi is a mover of mountains, he can accomplish anything he wants.  Hayden, talented, podium possible, definitely top four.  The rest, we'll just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: Super Dave on April 16, 2004, 06:09:23 am
1 Hayden - Well, Honda's pi$$ed, so well see how much.  He's motivated, and I think he's ready.  Seems like the offseason has been good.  The Joe Rocket debackle is over.

2 Rossi - With experience comes wisdom. Rossi brough his whole crew along for the change.  But why show all your card?.  Don't need to; he just needs to put in a good showing.

3 Biaggi - A real character.  But he can be brilliant on a bike.

4 Edwards - Good guy, but will Honda really give him the good stuff?  

Is anyone supposed to be riding the new Honda V-3 at South Africa?
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: TZDeSioux on April 16, 2004, 06:39:13 am
alright suckas.. put your money where your mouth is.
who wants to bet a case of beer of your choice on who wins? any takers?
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: motomadness on April 16, 2004, 07:28:21 am
My wildcard really should have been Kenny Roberts.
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: TZDeSioux on April 16, 2004, 07:32:23 am
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My wildcard really should have been Kenny Roberts.


nah.. don't go by his practice time. That boy fades big time in races.
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: Super Dave on April 16, 2004, 07:39:31 am
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nah.. don't go by his practice time. That boy fades big time in races.


Their bike is a piece of cr@p.  
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: cornercamping on April 16, 2004, 07:51:50 am
1. Rossi
2. Edwards
3. Bayliss
4. Hayden
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: StumpysWife on April 16, 2004, 08:00:10 am
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Will Kurtis finish the race?

I'm guessing no.


I was almost right.  He's not even starting.  According to www.superbikeplanet.com, he's on his way home because of his shoulder.  

Heather
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: duc995@aol.com on April 16, 2004, 08:08:23 am
1) Rossi
2) Hayden
3) Biaggi
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: cornercamping on April 16, 2004, 08:25:31 am
Rossi rocks  8)  Note the fastest lap (24) and record for the track.  Guess who's got a new record, again  ;D

(http://images.motograndprix.com/multimedia2/267/267953.jpg)
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: cornercamping on April 16, 2004, 08:28:58 am
Place your bets: https://www.betandwin.com/betsnew.aspx?SportID=40  ;D
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: cornercamping on April 16, 2004, 08:44:51 am
If anyone wants it, I have all the 2003 races on a hard drive in hi-res.  I'll also have all 2004 videos.  I'm a member on the MotoGP site  ;D  I plan on burning them into a DVD format soon.
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: Clay on April 16, 2004, 11:06:24 am
I'll remember that corner.  ;D

All I can say is...DANG, this is gonna be good.  This is what makes it exciting.  I mean, look at AMA.  It's still the best it's been in years...yet you ask that question and the answer will pretty much be: Mladin or EBoz.  WSBK...who gives a damn, it'll be a Ducati. ::)  But this series this year, no one knows!  

I personally still think Rossi will pull it off.  Pole positions, lap times, they all mean bunk once it comes race time.  The guy obviously has a switch that he can flip at any given time and turn on "god mode".  It's almost unreal.  I remember many times last year he wasn't on pole, yet still spanked the field.  I really hope he can put the yami on top.  That'll tell the world that it's not the bike!  (I chant that while racing my 929, LOL)

That being said, I WANT to see Edwards win it, and hope he does!
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: cornercamping on April 16, 2004, 11:52:51 am
I think Rossi's intention is to win a championship on EVERY manufacturers bike.  Then, he will be able to say that he is the worlds fastest rider.  If he can pull a championship on every manufactuers bike, he'll truely be a god.   ;D
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: OmniGLH on April 16, 2004, 12:10:53 pm
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2 Rossi - With experience comes wisdom. Rossi brough his whole crew along for the change.  But why show all your card?.  Don't need to; he just needs to put in a good showing.


I think Rossi has something to prove.  With all the people out there claiming the BIKE was the reason he is so fast - I bet he has a fire in his gut to win.  Especially this first round.  If he comes out and DOESN'T do well - then EVERYONE will say, "See!  See!  It WAS the bike!"  But if he WINS this first round, it will shut everyone up.  From that point through the rest of the season, he only needs to put in a good showing.

Just my opinion.
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: cornercamping on April 16, 2004, 12:40:24 pm
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I think Rossi has something to prove.  With all the people out there claiming the BIKE was the reason he is so fast - I bet he has a fire in his gut to win.  Especially this first round.  If he comes out and DOESN'T do well - then EVERYONE will say, "See!  See!  It WAS the bike!"  But if he WINS this first round, it will shut everyone up.  From that point through the rest of the season, he only needs to put in a good showing.

Just my opinion.


I think that is a justifiable comment.  Look at his laptime during qualifying.  Hell, he beat his own track record.  He's definetly out to show up everyone, but I still think his motovation is to show that regardless of the bike manufacturer, he is the MotoGP god.  Remember why he switched to ride a Yammie this year?  That right there points the arrow in the direction I'm coming up with.  He'll start with all the "underdog" manufacturers, and go up from there.  By the end of his career, he will probably have won a championship on every single manufactuers bike there is.  Has anyone done that before?  Nope.  He's already proven he's within the best of the best in MotoGP, if he's not actually the very best rider there is.  So, what else is there to prove?  It's not the bike that counts?  ??? Everyone already knows that there are no better sport bikes than a real GP teams. That's motorcycle technology at it's best  :)
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: tigerblade on April 16, 2004, 12:53:04 pm
Practice/Qualifying is very misleading.  Remember McWilliams putting the Proton on pole for Phillip Island a couple years ago and promptly getting smoked in the race?   ;)

1. Barros

2. Hayden

3. Rossi

4. Biaggi

5. Edwards
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: Super Dave on April 16, 2004, 07:35:26 pm
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I think Rossi has something to prove...


No.

At that level of racing, no.  He's just trying to do his best, every day, every week, every year.  When the fun and satisfaction of doing that goes away, his riding might deteriorate, or he might just leave and go to rally racing or something...

He could care less about who he's racing against.  He's just doing his job.  But IF someone could consistently pick it up and give him a serious run for his money race in race out, it would be much more interesting.

The Lawson/Spencer battles were really good.  Same goes for the Schwantz, Rainey, Doohan battles.  Yeah, someone had to win, but really you don't know who.  

Now, well, Rossi is still an easy pick.  Even on the Yamaha.  Question has to be can anyone really pick it up?  Hayden?  Might be the best bet as he's not a seasoned Euro traveler.  The rest, well, they've all been to these tracks for years and years, and some for over a decade.  
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: cornercamping on April 16, 2004, 11:28:04 pm
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Question has to be can anyone really pick it up?  Hayden?  
 


Hayden  ::) maybe next year.   I think Edwards is going to give everyone a run for their money this year, just because he's pissed at Aprilia.  I met Colin Edwards at the STT Track Day (Aprilia Edwards Replica Day) and he seems like a cool guy.   One thing you could kind of tell though, is that he really was glad the relationship with Aprilia was over.  That track day was the last thing he "owed" Aprilia and then it was over.  I got him to sign my helmet and gas tank.  Track day was a hoot, lemme tell ya.  Kevin Schwantz, Jamie James, Colin Edwards running around the track, and then some moron on a brand new Mille R Edwards Replica that had 0 miles on it which was supposed to be a collectors item, decided to "try" and outbrake Edwards in Turn 1 at Jennings.  Yeah, that kinda sent his stupid ass into the dirt.  That bike was in pieces.  Anyways, now that Colin has a new ride, he's gotta step up to the plate.  No more lame "Aprilia Problems" excuses.  Some thought that the Aprilia bikes weren't up to par with the rest, but this year, he better either be on the podium, or come up with a better excuse.  I personally think that Edwards will be the one to give Rossi a "challenge" BUT, Rossi will just toy with him until he gets bored, then start sliding the rear end of that Yammie in every turn and leave the entire pack in the dust.  8)  We'll see.  Hope Edwards says his prayers and makes it thru the season, otherwise, he'll be selling more of this stuff to fund all his toys after he loses his GP ride:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2770467919&category=2875

;D

I'm actually into MotoGP and WSBK than some think I am  8)
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: cornercamping on April 16, 2004, 11:37:02 pm
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Practice/Qualifying is very misleading.  


I know, cost me $50.00 last time  >:( Right now official odds are 10 to 1 on Edwards for the win.
Odd's on Rossi are 2 to 1.  Not that I gamble or anything, but the "bookies" usually know what's up  ;) ;D
Anyways, is Rossi's time "Official" in the fact that he beat his own record, or does it only count in an actual race?  I know that with us it doesn't count unless we're actual in a race.  He was .498 seconds faster in qualifying than the circuit record.  Hmmm ???
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: cornercamping on April 16, 2004, 11:58:57 pm
Look at the odds on this stuff:

MotoGP - GP Africa, World      
MotoGP - GP Africa, Race - 2:00 PM  +10  
Victory bet  

Valentino Rossi (ITA/Yamaha)  2.00  

Sete Gibernau (ESP/Honda)  4.00  

Max Biaggi (ITA/Honda)  5.50  

Nick Hayden (USA/Honda)  10.00  

Loris Capirossi (ITA/Ducati)  10.00  

Colin Edwards (USA/Honda)  10.00  

Alex Barros (BRA/Honda)  10.00  

Kenny Roberts (USA/Suzuki)  12.00  

Makoto Tamada (JPN/Honda)  30.00  

Marco Melandri (ITA/Yamaha)  35.00  

Troy Bayliss (AUS/Ducati)  40.00  

Carlos Checa (ESP/Yamaha)  40.00  

John Hopkins (USA/Suzuki)  50.00  

Shinya Nakano (JPN/Kawasaki)  80.00  

Alex Hofmann (GER/Kawasaki)  125.00  

Neil Hodgson (GBR/Ducati)  150.00  

Ruben Xaus (ESP/Ducati)  150.00  

Norick Abe (JPN/Yamaha)  150.00  

Jeremy McWilliams (GBR/Aprilia)  350.00  

Shane Byrne (GBR/Aprilia)  350.00  

Kurtis Roberts (USA/Proton)  800.00  

Nobuatsu Aoki (JPN/Proton)  800.00


Roberts is 800 to 1  :o  Imagine hitting that one.  Bet 1K Euro's and your stinkin rich if he pulled it off  8)  

Clay... watcha do with all the contingency money  :P
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: Super Dave on April 17, 2004, 05:51:54 am
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Hayden  ::) maybe next year.


If he doesn't do it this year, there will be a lot of unhappy people.  Honda America pulled some big strings to get him the ride last year.  They feel that he can do it.  

It's time.  If he can't step it up this year, he might as well start looking for other rides.  Honestly, as an American, you've got to be pretty big to run in a European sponsor filled championship.  
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: Super Dave on April 17, 2004, 12:55:26 pm
1. Valentino ROSSI, Yamaha, 1:32.647
2. Sete GIBERNAU, Honda, 1:32.682
3. Max BIAGGI, Honda, 1:32.919
4. Nicky HAYDEN, Honda, 1:33.098
5. Colin EDWARDS, Honda, 1:33.111
6. Shinya NAKANO, Kawasaki, 1:33.276
7. Marco MELANDRI, Yamaha, 1:33.296
8. Alex BARROS, Honda, 1:33.359
9. Loris CAPIROSSI, Ducati, 1:33.522
10. Kenny ROBERTS, Suzuki, 1:33.543
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: H-man on April 17, 2004, 09:32:47 pm
Whoa!  :o  The top 10 bikes doing average lap times within 1 second of each other?  :o :o

I don't think you're clairvoyant Super D., but I'll be sure to tape this race as well as watch it ;)
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: 251am on April 18, 2004, 05:47:34 am
 Alright Mr VanillaMice- I'll lay a 15 pack of Guiness on Mr Rossi. You still with Biaggi to win? Hey wait a minute, the race is over isn't it?
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: Super Dave on April 18, 2004, 06:17:45 am
One second of each other, yeah.  It's cool.  

Best riders, best tires, best teams.

Over yet?  Maybe, but the results aren't posted yet.  Morning warm up times are.
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: smoke on April 18, 2004, 06:29:49 am
speed is showing the race today at 2pm followed by FIM. I will record it.  I will not be able to convert it to digital for a while as my mian PC just checked out. I need to load a new os. win 2000 sucks  butt.

my money is on gibernau or nicky
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: smoke on April 18, 2004, 12:01:16 pm
Its over
1.rossi
2.Biaggi
3.gibernau
4.barros
5.Hayden
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: cornercamping on April 18, 2004, 12:41:15 pm
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Its over
1.rossi


;D Told ya so  :P
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: 251am on April 18, 2004, 05:09:42 pm
 Hello Mr Vanillar? I'll take one 15 pack of Guiness pint cans at RAmerica. Where shall we meet? :)
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: tigerblade on April 19, 2004, 06:26:44 am
The only disappointing part of the race was that Rossi didn't say "ees possible" even once during his interview.   :-/ ;D
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: TZDeSioux on April 19, 2004, 06:32:02 am
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Hello Mr Vanillar? I'll take one 15 pack of Guiness pint cans at RAmerica. Where shall we meet? :)


oh crap.. should've checked this site earlier. But to show good faith, I will have a 40oz bottle of Old English waiting for you. Or would you prefer King Cobra? Come find me.
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: TZDeSioux on April 19, 2004, 06:32:50 am
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The only disappointing part of the race was that Rossi didn't say "ees possible" even once during his interview.   :-/ ;D


But he did talk about his Rhythm.  ;)
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: diesel748 on April 19, 2004, 07:15:40 am
And his team make good bike.
But he didn't pooosh and be smooth.
Biaggi run good fast lap.
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: tigerblade on April 19, 2004, 08:37:19 am
It's always fun to calculate the "ees difficult" vs "ees possible" ratio.   ;D
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: raptorduck952 on April 19, 2004, 08:47:59 am
Here are my predictions.  :P

1. Rossi
2. Biagi
3. Gibreneau
4. Barros
5. Hayden
6. Capirosi
7. Edwards

;D
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: StumpysWife on April 19, 2004, 09:42:32 am
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"ees possible"


Don't forget my favorite...

"ees good".

What a race.

Heather
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: tigerblade on April 19, 2004, 10:31:31 am
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Don't forget my favorite...

"ees good".

What a race.

Heather


Of course, "good" comes out more like "goot".   ;D
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: hooter31 on April 19, 2004, 10:35:00 am
Rossi has proved to the world he ees the best rider
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: 251am on April 19, 2004, 04:54:48 pm

to show good faith, I will have a 40oz bottle of Old English waiting for you. Or would you prefer King Cobra?

 The OE 40 would be dandy as long as it's in a brown bag, eh?     ;D
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: TZDeSioux on April 19, 2004, 05:52:41 pm
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 The OE 40 would be dandy as long as it's in a brown bag, eh?     ;D


you got it brother! I'll find ya. #251 right?
Title: Re: South African Grand Prix Predictions
Post by: Super Dave on April 19, 2004, 06:15:09 pm
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Rossi has proved to the world he ees the best rider
'

Well, a couple of times.  He is a multi time world champion.  
;D

Can he go away from the sport for eleven years and come back and win?  That's what Hailwood did...potentially the best motorcycle racer ever.  Time will only tell if Rossi can surpass that over time.